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Banco Santander, S.A. Message Board

  • wannaretirerich wannaretirerich Jun 30, 1998 1:15 PM Flag


    When did STD declare a split?

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    • I can not see what JD means when he says that ESF
      may be the next STD. ESF p/e is 13.69, STD - 11.77.
      STD looks cheaper !

      I am thinking about taking
      a loss in ESF and switching to STD - what am I
      missing ?

    • From the online WSJ:

      "Meanwhile, banking
      shares are up after Banco de Santander wrapped up
      Spanish banks' first half earnings season earlier
      Thursday. Santander posted a first half net profit of 81.97
      billion pesetas, up 37% from the same period in 1997.
      Santander shares gained 80 pesetas to 4,155 pesetas."

    • Wish I'd gotten into STD back then. As for ESF, I
      generally believe that Europe will go through a growth
      phase that we've seen here and I think the common
      "euro" will excite the market. I also think ESF looks
      cheap at its PE (although it is a financial), but look
      at what financials have done here! As for the annual
      report - yes very attractive, but as a stock holder, I'm
      always concerned about the cost of these fancy books -
      unless of course they are buying Fletcher paper to print
      them on. And to the Bored responder - we're just
      looking for the early stages of a stock similar to STD,
      can STD keep going up at the same rate? Should we be
      buying at current prices? Thanks for the input. Maybe
      with our market the past few days more institutional
      investors will go for foreign stocks - does that make
      sense? we saw a nice increase in ERICY today. Although
      ESF is not STD, I do hope it will follow a similar
      path given its similarities.

    • It sounds like you are a little bored with STD
      and are looking for other fun things to do. For me, I
      can hardly wait to hear what STD will be doing next.
      This is great management. Is it possible this will be
      the next Citicorp?

    • I got STD about a year ago and have more than a
      double on it and it looks good for the foreseeable
      future. I have also recently added to my position on ESF
      but find it difficult to get much information on the
      company. Their annual report was great reading and truly a
      beautiful edition - US companies should follow the lead in
      this respect. Why did you buy ESF? what are your
      expectations? With recent earnings at $1.60 it looks cheap but
      this market has me thinking these days. Good luck to
      us all.

    • In a word, yes. Otherwise I'd be out of here.
      Here's a couple of possibilities to

      1)If Botin can come through on his promise to double
      earnings before 2000
      2)Latin American markets contiue
      to show the growth that is expected
      are realized from the consolidation of the European
      4)STD is able to obtain a position in the Asian
      financial markets while they are now depressed
      gets synergies from it's recent mergers/acquisitions
      in the Spanish banking market

      If any 2 or 3
      of the above 5 come to fruition, this stock could
      double AGAIN before the year 2000. If more than 3 occur,
      then the sky is the limit.

    • Also been a JD subsciber for several years but missed out on STD. Recently bought ESF. Do you think there is still plenty of upside to STD? Thanks

    • I usually use the Silicon Investor thread for talking about JD.

    • I have been wishing that there was a place to
      discuss JD's views.

      I set up a topic at Market
      Trends, John Dessaurer's views on the

      Perhaps a civilized discussion on how we view his views.

    • Looks like BBV (Santander's biggest competition
      among the Spanish banks) came in just below analysts
      expectations with 28% growth. This could bode very well for
      STD, since analysts had them pegged for 32% growth if
      my memory is correct... We'll know next week...

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