bsk2007: I don't like to knock any gold stocks these days as we are near or already in an all ships rising mode. I always go for value in any case and this may or may not always give you the highest gains but I think it will cover the downside better (if there is any downside that is). I noticed Irishlass is high on Northgate so I took a look at it. Unfortunately it never turned me on as it has to be really good for me to get iterested since I am sitting nicely invested already. As John Embry said it started with a not so great situation with the Kemiss mine and now is branching out. The copper seems good and could make it a winner. From my earlier look at it they have to prove they can keep control of the costs. They have to use some huge trucks to move the ore to a mill etc and the transportation costs could go ballistic. Their tailings I believe have to be shipped all the way to Rouyn Noranda, Quebec but this may still be profitable (I don't know). It seemed to me they have to get the native councils all together yet and get on with the new mine to make it a winner. I got the feeling the new mine would be a similar extention to the old one but I didn't get the feeling there was a lot of room for big expansion. Like Embry we acknowledge it but aren't excited enough to buy as we feel there are bigger fish with oodles of leverage already out there. I am hoping those who buy or own it will make out just fine. Retirement is treating me just fine as my paper profits are going ballistic. I am a lazy poster and we need intelligent women around like you to offset all the idiots posting.