TJ also said that without illegals he could not operate his 3 vinyards. He said that no Americans would do the work. Well, of course not....not for the starvation wages he's willing to pay. Illegals depress ag wages because vitners like him hire illegals who are willing to work for less that American citizens. If you didn't pay insurance and lived in a house with 4 other famlies and your only choice was to go back south, you'd do it too.