Savient Pharmaceuticals, Inc. Message Board

  • jorger_98 jorger_98 Feb 4, 1999 10:05 AM Flag

    Great earning and stock goes down...

    This is sucksssss. this company does not care for thier stock holder. I just dump 4000 shares.

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    • I can't imagine that there are institutions who
      don't know that BTGC exists. You and I found them, and
      they have buildings full of people whose job it is to
      stay up to date on just about every company out there.
      I'm sure they know that this stock is a bargain, and
      I kinda think that there may be some other reason
      it's not being bought. I just have no idea what that
      reason could possibly be. Chalk it up to them not being
      as smart as us, I guess. I know one thing for sure.
      I'm not selling BTGC for a long, long while. The math
      doesn't lie, and the share price will always catch up
      with the earnings, though some issues take a little
      longer that others.
      tz

    • I was glad to hear them get hit a number of times
      with questions about getting out and telling their
      story. They need to sell themselves to more
      brokers/analysts and attract more institutional ownership of the
      stock. To date though I must say that their PR is very
      lacking. The fundamentals are there but that won't do them
      any good if institutions don't know they exist.

    • I was very surprised (pleasantly, I should say)
      that during CC, the company repeatedly assured
      audience of EPS 25% growth rate not only for the next
      couple of years, but for the next 5-7 years. They even
      indicated that this 25% growth rate was based on the worst
      case scenario. Of course, there is a question whehter
      you believe what they say. Otherwise, who can ask
      anything more? Especially for a biotech company. Looking
      back their history, it seems that they do deliver what
      they said. Based on the minimum projected ESP for 1999
      (.45), the stock's fair value should be at least $11.

    • hit 7 and 5/16

    • They stated that they are insuring 25% EPS growth
      over the next few years. Yes, Fass used the word
      "insure". Oxandrin should be used for more than AIDS by mid
      year (wound care). Biotropin should be over $25
      million in '99. Have over $70 million cash now looking at
      acquisitions. Tax rate was reduced due to R&D tax credits, will
      be up in '99 to around 29% from 28.3% in '98. Stated
      that expenses will grow less than earnings. Will be at
      Alex Brown conference in may and hope to be at Goldman
      Sachs conference in June. They will not be buying back
      any shares. And they concluded by stating that
      revenues will exceed $100 million in '99 and EPS will be
      at ;east 45 cents a share.

    • You should have listened longer. A lot of
      positive comments were made for the medium and long term
      investor. Call today by 5 PM and let me know if you do not
      agree.

      No matter how you slice it this stock is
      under-valued, big time. The low exposure to the investment
      community is being addressed. They have been meeting
      privately with other brokerage houses besides ML and
      thought it was a good idea (when suggested by a caller)
      to hold breakfast meetings with analysts to tell
      their story.

      Does everyone agree that at these
      prices BTGC is a screaming buy?
      Yes, then tell a
      friend.

    • Enjoyed your message so much I think it should be
      emailed to BTGC's Investor Relations.

      Have been
      in this stock at 16 for over two years. Won't sell
      again till reaches double so all you shorters,
      doomsdayers & the like can take a hike. Long on BTGC!

    • It looks like all of BTGC's sales growth came
      from Oxandrin. Total sales increased to 68 from 54 =
      14 mil, Oxandrin 41 from 28 = 13mil. So there is
      virtually no increase in sales of other products. I'm long
      at BTGC and I'm not going to hedge my position in it
      in near future. But I personally think that more
      attention has to given to R&D and promotion of other
      products. BTGC's sales are too leveraged with Oxandrin now,
      I don't mean that it is bad in any way.

    • I only listened for 5 mins. But I hear a common
      tread from many securities people asking questions.
      WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO FOR THE INVESTORS!!!. And all
      Fiss said is grow the company @ 25%. It almost seemed
      to me that the securities people were not to happy
      to the answer they were getting about, aquistions
      and royalty Fee's. All the people wanted was a good
      number a target number. But all Fiss would say is that
      they could be Subtaintially greater. This guy just
      kept dodging the questions. He is a walfler and would
      not comment. I hate people like that. Put your balls
      on the line. Give me your feedback

    • Leah,

      I read the press release and
      although the numbers were not great they are in line with
      the September 1998 quarter. The decrease in sales vs.
      the September 1998 quarter was probably due to the
      timing of orders as explained in past quarterly reports
      and contract fees.

      What's the problem?


      Problem A - The press release is not informative. BTG
      should be presenting virtually the same information in
      the press release as they do in the distributed
      quarterly earnings report to shareholders'.
      Why?


      1.We want to increase the demand for the stock by
      having non-shareholders buy-it. 2. We, the shareholders'
      want to understand where the future growth of this
      company will come from and why we should continue to hold
      it. 3. Other companies are getting away from mailings
      because of the cost, the availability of the information
      on-line and timeliness.

      Problem B - No comments on
      the current quarter, all comments are for the year -
      it looks like BTG is hiding something. In fact,
      income is up ( and I believe sales, too) over the fourth
      quarter of last year.

      Solution - read press
      releases of other companies; have your external investor
      relations help write the release, or (more common) hire the
      talent.

      If anybody else agrees with me, any additional
      messages may drive my point home.

      Let's get going
      and improve how BTG is being presented!

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