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Hanesbrands Inc. Message Board

  • freewheelin12 freewheelin12 Oct 28, 2009 5:02 PM Flag

    Any views on the results

    Who can explain the 63c excluding actions term....?

    Sales at the low end of market expectations. 2010 sounds a bit woolly based on the assumption that consumer spending remains okay for the rest of 2009

    Bit of a rabbit out of the hat with the ol foreign tax impact and no idea what the exceptionals/restructuring costs might add up to

    Market seems to look favourably after hours but who can tell in this spooked environment...

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    • Good to see some balanced debate on these message boards, though that is probably borne out of real experience being both long and short and being able to see both sides of the coin. It is only a popularity contest anyway, just got to back the winners more than the losers, nothing wrong with the company, just the price goes out of line now and then and long term if debt continues to be paid down, the consumer gathers some confidence (certainly lacking at the moment), management keep the margins up, stock levels down etc, it'll probably be a winner, just too pricey for my pockets right now. Enjoy cape cod, damn cold right now i'd say though, brass monkeys come to mind, not that I have any

    • I try to be, even when I am losing money (temporarily).

      I am one of the lucky ones, I found a job a year ago - it's just funny it took a year to get some responses back. I was one of the lucky ones, and believe me, I count my blessings daily.

      Yeah, I might very well take you up on that boat invite - I only travel on yachts

      I did buy some jan 15 puts on BAC when it was trading at 18; so at least THOSE are making me money. Ive actually made over 200% on that trade. I think the banks are INDEED destined for a correction - I just hope they dont suck the entire market down!

    • Now, now, good. No one said anything about shorting here. Free and I just know it will be 19 before 29. Just like I told you it would be 22. Patience. Regardless, I like your optimism. Particularly in the face of your unfortunate, between jobs, status. When you get with the I.R.S. do seek me out at my second home on Cape Cod. Perhaps we can all go for a ride in my boat.

    • Short - HERE...Loco!

      UBS upgraded and gave a price target of 29 (Although, I dont see the story here, but I saw it at work???)

      And on a personal note (a RANDOM sample that tells me things ARE getting better). I filled out ZILLIONS of online apps a year ago when I moved back to Denver, and I am getting an average of one reply a day now with job ops - only took a year! One even from the IRS - whats your address Ash, I want to visit you first if they bring me on

      Happy Trading, all!

    • Glad we agree on something. See, sometimes women do have the inside track, especially on companies making, well, yuo already know....

      Happy investing/trading

    • Short term. I believe you're right.

    • England, never. US, neither, the internet does level the international market playing field. Unions my ass, pure marketing drives demand for branded products, same sewing machines make low end products. Not a union supporter here but definitely dont like to see anyone exploited (including US consumers).

      Am short here, HBI definitely overvalued iMO

    • With respect, I see you have no problem coming over from England to enjoy the best country in the World. As you can tell I'm a small govt., low taxes, take care of yourself kinda guy. Too bad about outsourcing, the unions caused that. What should the govt. do subsidize buggy whips to keep jobs?

    • Never said they were. To be honest, as a non US citzen, I couldnt care less though it does seem pretty inconsisten to hear US companies wanting it both ways, tons of borrowed funny money from the CHinese to pump into the economy, weakening the US dollar in the process to subsidise exports while outsourcing jobs to thid world countries so consumers can don overpriced branded (xl) knickers which result in a doubling of the unemployment rate from historic levels and at the same time proclaiming how American it is to pay taxes ....just dont know how easily that would rests me. Wouldnt even mind if the knickers could be worn with pride by most of the population anyway. What did you say? Greed is good, oh yeah forgot that one, apologies

    • Without the lower tax rate Hanes would have come in at consensus estimates. I look for flat to lower at the close tommorrow. Depending on the market. Take that good.

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      • Isnt lower tax rates a part of the streamlining process? Its not accident. Lower sales and higher earnings.

        Kinda like the Boeing dreamliner - it will get 30% better fuel consumption, carry 200 plus (just like a current medium jet in service now) and be able to travel further.

        There are many examples of companies that bring in TONS of cash and have negative earnings. I say HBI is doing a great job, given all the debt it was dumped with when it spun off.

        Kudos to the management team and their "hard" decisions they have mae closing plants down to streamline revenue. This is a business, and paying someone $25/hr when they can pay half that elsewhere? I know it sounds harsh, but this IS a business, its nothing personal against the employees that get laid off. They do give them severences, which is VERY rare in this environment.

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