Direxion Daily 20+ Yr Trsy Bear 3X Shrs Message Board

Why buy a dividend stock for 4% when the stock can lose 30% ??.. <<

I'm pretty sure that the same could be said about Why buy a 30 year US bond at 2.7% when it can lose 30%? But of course since the experts are all frontrunning Twist, Benron, etc. that will not be mentioned these daze.

http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2012/06/18/bond-investors-are-headed-to-a-massacre.aspx

Interesting counterpoint here--but these things take time and Bill Gross doesn't become an idiot in just one day :).

you have to temper that with some caution.<<

Absolutely CL--I am not fully convinced we are on the verge of any kind of breakout in the commodity markets including PMs.

http://blog.kimblechartingsolutions.com/2012/06/is-it-all-about-greece-or-the-message-copper-and-the-crx-index-is-sending-about-the-potential-of-deflationlower-prices-ahead/


http://blog.kimblechartingsolutions.com/2012/06/is-silver-forming-a-large-bearish-descending-triangle-pattern/


These two charts give me concern. I am buying gold stocks but am being cautious here and will increase if the GOLD:XAU ratio goes up--which would of course mean lower prices for PM stocks.


http://biz.yahoo.com/t/35/4094.html

This fellow has a good record of buying his copper stock at lows and he has been quiet lately, so we probably should be moving cautiously at this point.

That's exactly what's happened to demand for U S paper. Is that pretty dumb?? Yes, but it is reality.<<

Again, totally agree--I have opened a small position in RYJUX and will add to it if the bubble gets bigger--nobody can know when it bursts, but when it does, it will be too late to build postions.

J, you should be careful about listening to the gold bugs - they never change. I've always been a metals and oil guy, but you have to temper that with some caution.

From that article:

>>>>>a 200% increase in supply on the streets could cause the price in these markets to collapse if demand didn't increase to match the increase in supply.<<<<

That's exactly what's happened to demand for U S paper. Is that pretty dumb?? Yes, but it is reality.

C L

http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_12/lundeen061712.html

The title of this article sez it all--can't say when the manipulation fails, so will just average into positions until it does.

short 30 year t bond ETN. No decay, and in fact tends to have a positive movement due to less volume. Use limit orders, buy small enough amounts you won't lose sleep over every time interest rates drop, and hold. There are no options available for it so you can't write covered calls.