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  • carefulinvestor2002 carefulinvestor2002 Jan 22, 2003 9:01 PM Flag

    Pilots to give up raises

    plus 20 % additional to keep DAL out of BK. Eating through way too much cash, some put it at 2 million - 3 million A DAY!!!!!! Time to cough up those RAISES while others are being terminated.

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    • Hey, you two, what happens if al Qaeda drops a turd in the Internet punch bowl, and sends online business (and Yahoo) crashing, what then?

    • Low blow, bubba.

      Who's a liberal Dumbocrat? Surely you jest. Hippie freak. Get a haircut. Nice picture in your profile btw.

    • It can't be the internet. Al Gore didn't invent it...

    • Sage=semi automatic ground enviorment..i knew it well..my air force days and radar sites!!
      commonly called a trace face and ict.. Fun times!!

    • "I'm sorry that the likes of you had to ruin it for everyone."
      For "everyone"! A bit overstated and overdramatic isn't it. Your statement borders on the hysterical. Pop a lithium and relax!

      "SAGE was one of the most remarkable engineering and computer-related feats of the Cold War; it provided for nationwide communication and air surveillance, and was also the p r e c u r s o r to another very important child of the Cold War: the I n t e r n e t ."

      http://www.piedmontcommunities.us/servlet/go_ProcServ/dbpage=page&gid=0130400115
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    • You just don't get it do you?

      First, that's not the link you gave me. I guess you can find anyone on the Internet who is willing to state what you believe as true. The information you quoted creates a tenuous link to your argument, at best. It still did NOT say "SAGE was the precursor to the Internet" - that's an inference you made by your opinion that "it sounds like that to me". Back in the day, it was pure bliss when the Internet was only inhabited by intelligent, academic types. I'm sorry that the likes of you had to ruin it for everyone. It was bound to happen someday, I guess. Luckily those of us involved with the Internet2 project have such a respite again, albeit temporary.

      Second, SAGE and today's Internet are not closely related. ARPAnet was the basis for today's Internet! Not SAGE! If I wanted to make a silly argument, I could say "well, ENIAC was the basis for SAGE at some point, so ENIAC must have been the precursor to the Internet." You probably won't understand the analogy, but you would counter with something inane such as "the abacus came before ENIAC, so IT was the precursor to the Internet..."

      The fact remains that ARPAnet formed the basis of today's Internet. Since you continue to incorrectly profess otherwise, there is no point in arguing with you any further. I suggest you study history a little more closely before making such claims!

      You have been added to the killfile.

    • http://www.eskimo.com/~wow-ray/sage28.html

      "...It also pioneered some of the most of the important technology used to facilitate internet processing today: i.e., the modem, the mouse [light gun], multi-tasking, array processing, computer learning, fault detection, magnetic memory, and interactive computer graphics. Most important, it worked well enough for each center to coordinate about 100 operators, track 300 simultaneous flights, control numerous sorties against a maneuvering radar-jamming "enemy", and coordinate "friendly" NIKE and Bomarc defenses."

      Sure sounds like the precursor to the internet

      "The SAGE research teams for the first time focused their effort on design of human computer interfaces that could quickly analyze data and display it on computer screens, react to light pen interaction in real time, and automatically suggest alternate courses of action based on the development of a particular situation. These experiences convinced a lot of people of the practical potential for enhanced computer interfaces, most notably Joseph Licklider, who worked on SAGE, and later became the first Director of the IPTO where he initiated the research that led to creation of the ARPANET."

    • Must be that "reading" thing. Try reading my post again. I stand by my assertion that ARPAnet was the precursor of today's Internet, like I have already stated. "SAGE" was a military system not related to today's Internet. The Internet grew from ARPAnet, not SAGE. Where on that site does it claim otherwise? I didn't find it.

    • "My, my window, stomp your feet and throw a fit.
      "I'm the one asking the questions here." Aren't you the little brat?"

      Wrong again. I find it amazing how you are able to make broad inferences about someone's attitudes based on what they post. Talk about sweeping generalizations.

      Although it's true that 'you' are supposed to be answering 'me', I'll humor you on this.

      I'm not sure what this "NARPAnet" is that you are referring to. Sure you have that right?

      ARPAnet (later, DARPAnet) was the beginning of the Internet as we know it today. The first ARPAnet research didn't begin until 1965. There was no "Internet" (distributed, robust computing) precursor in 1963, but I admire your effort. In 1962, the RAND corporation began research on robust networking. In fact, the first 4 ARPAnet servers (hardware and software) making up the system that became today's Internet were not deployed until 1969 at various universities.

      I realize I have just given you the answers, but such is life. Someone had to prove you wrong.

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