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  • bobbobwhite bobbobwhite Dec 9, 2002 11:28 AM Flag

    Are menhaden numbers

    healthy and growing, not declining? Is soybean competition, or any other source of this specialty oil, a real risk to OME's business? Objective appraisal appreciated.

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    • Back by popular demand, to say nothing of flagrant narcissim:

      Re: I've said it before
      by: stockfisher2020 (46/M/Central New York) 02/04/03 08:01 am
      Msg: 2200 of 2213

      The reason nobody seems to have heard of omega-3s is that there's no big pharma money behind it. At times, OME seems determined to keep it a secret, too. (Some on this board have opined it's b/c ZAP wants to take OME private....)

      For anyone interested in the THERAPEUTIC uses of omega-3s, OME's IR has a compendium of peer-reviewed references documenting efficacy in everything from inflammatory bowel disease, to Sjogren's Syndrome, to manic-depression. The omega-3s are non pareil membrane stabilizers that go practically everywhere in the body and have been largely kept out of the public's consciousness.

      This is not fringe. This is evidence-based medicine. So much so that the Am Heart Assoc broke with tradition and made its FIRST-EVER recommendation on taking a pill-form supplement: Omega-3s.

    • so I'll reply again. See the orig message to which I'm replying. The reason nobody seems to have heard of omega-3s is that there's no big pharma money behind it. At times, OME seems determined to keep it a secret, too. (Some on this board have opined it's b/c ZAP wants to take OME private....)

      For anyone interested in the THERAPEUTIC uses of omega-3s, OME's IR has a compendium of peer-reviewed references documenting efficacy in everything from inflammatory bowel disease, to Sjogren's Syndrome, to manic-depression. The omega-3s are non pareil membrane stabilizers that go practically everywhere in the body and have been largely kept out of the public's consciousness.

      This is not fringe. This is evidence-based medicine. So much so that the Am Heart Assoc broke with tradition and made its FIRST-EVER recommendation on taking a pill-form supplement: Omega-3s.

    • Yes, indeed. I belong to an organization whose mantra is, "Teach Tolerance".

      Here's to tolerance in the New Year!

    • dr_freud_butyoucancallmesiggy dr_freud_butyoucancallmesiggy Dec 25, 2002 6:54 PM Flag

      While I may not celebrate certain holidays, I still respect those of others. Can you say "Tolerance"? I knew you could.

    • Why, Dr. Freud - I mean Siggy, thank you for that wonderful Christmas present, the gift of insight.

      Say, I didn't know you celebrated Christmas!?

    • dr_freud_butyoucancallmesiggy dr_freud_butyoucancallmesiggy Dec 21, 2002 9:41 PM Flag

      "I'm just steamed about it, and hypertension isn't even my schtick. (Knew you'd be reading this, Dr. Freud.)"

      Of course, I'm reading it. Is there something you would like to talk about? I have a little free couch time this week.

    • Oh, yeah, no mumbling. Sorry, I forgot.

      Something I want to say clearly: Falling $USD should provide a windfall for OME's profits, via OME exports to the Europe. Oh, and another thing: I'll guarantee increased rev's/sales at OME's website, purchases from referred patients and from at least one doc I know.

      IMO, OME could launch a highly lucrative physician partnering program with little more than an inexpensive ad campaign. Publicize OME's product quality and purity (list contaminants in the ppm or ppb quantities) and IMO the physician community would be "on board". This same ethic of touting product purity COULD theoretically make OME an advocate of cleaning up the environment, the Chesapeake especially.

      Believe me, all the docs I know are pretty PO'd after the latest long-term study on dirt-cheap hydrochlorothiazide (vs super-expensive ACE Inhibitors and expensive what-not drugs) that showed (roughly) therapeutic equivalency in terms of morbidity and mortality. Most of the so-called advances over the past two decades in the pharmacotherapy of hypertension were just revealed to be little more than big pharma pork and boondoggles. I'm just steamed about it, and hypertension isn't even my schtick. (Knew you'd be reading this, Dr. Freud.)

      Yeah, bring on the nutraceuticals. Enough of this big pharma garbage.

    • No, NOT identical, but definitely some overlap. Soy protein tends to have relatively less of... certain amino acids. Frankly, I forget which ones. Maybe methionine and/or lysine.

      And then there's the omega-3 connection, which IMO takes menhaden and related products, and "kicks it up a notch". There are dozens upon dozens of peer-reviewed articles in multiple areas of medicine re the health benefits of omega-3s. Maybe plant sources (e.g., flax seed oil and others) will eventually replace a portion of the animal-derived omega-3 mrkt. But for now, given that research and many, many studies have been done with fish oil, that's what I recommend to patients.

      Unless, of course, theyre vegetarians or vegans...

    • "healthy and growing, not declining?"

      NMFS Landings Query Results

      Year: From: 1991 To: 2001
      Species: menhaden
      State: Atlantic And Gulf


      Year Pounds
      1991 1,960,827,458
      1992 1,626,792,376
      1993 1,956,371,703
      1994 2,341,232,512
      1995 1,844,574,201
      1996 1,757,966,753
      1997 2,012,768,660
      1998 1,704,271,840
      1999 1,989,068,311
      2000 1,760,566,718
      2001 1,740,704,515

      Year to year variations. Don't forget to take into account weather, which can affect fishing days. Localized catches aside, Menhaden landings do not appear to have reached "maximum sustainable yield". Unfortunately, some tend to focus on short term, local catches to draw conclusions for the whole population.


      "Is soybean competition"

      Soy is a major protein source. It often defines the protein market. Palm is the dominant factor in the world oil market. It is a highly saturated fat that does not compete in the omega-3 area.


      "or any other source of this specialty oil, a real risk to OME's business?"

      Soy is not a major source of omega-3 fatty acids. The main vegetable source of omega-3 fatty acids is Flax. However, Flax also has a high omega-6 level. This is not so good. Fish oil has a much better omega-3/omega-6 balance.

 
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