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Navistar International Corporation Message Board

  • boobofly777 boobofly777 Sep 19, 2013 8:46 PM Flag

    Moving up, but is it warranted ?

    Started looking at Navistar as the share price is moving up nicely.

    ... in looking at the numbers quickly, they look horrible. The history of the company is
    depressing, the botched engine design, and having Cummings build engines now, etc.

    Can someone tell me why the numbers should be ignored and why a long position is a good idea.

    What has changed, what are the positives that I'm missing here?


    Trailing P/E (ttm, intraday): N/A
    Forward P/E (fye Oct 31, 2014)1: 79.42
    PEG Ratio (5 yr expected)1: -4.80
    Profit Margin (ttm): -30.67%
    Operating Margin (ttm): -7.68%
    Return on Assets (ttm): -5.68%
    Qtrly Revenue Growth (yoy): -11.90%'
    Diluted EPS (ttm): -45.29
    Book Value Per Share (mrq): -49.44
    EBITDA (ttm)6: -587.00M
    Net Income Avl to Common (ttm): -3.51B

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    • The float is miniscule, and the big holders are vacuuming up anything tendered. Huge operating losses, finite cash reserves. You can only stretch payables and tighten inventories so long. They've divested of most of the obvious units (engines, anyone?), but it's hard to see anything but a restructuring in their future. I wouldn't be putting any of my 401(K) into this; their problems aren't going to be solved with disingenuous press releases and dodgy accounting, any longer.

      Sentiment: Strong Sell

    • cohnstein_the_cyber_terrorist cohnstein_the_cyber_terrorist Sep 20, 2013 5:51 AM Flag

      Numbers aren't everything. ... and they can pretty much only get better!

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