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  • zzzclay zzzclay Jun 10, 2005 10:18 AM Flag

    ADMAN = Selfish, Rich Prick!!

    Hey rich ahole,
    I earn about $45K a year and give away over 25% every year to charity and live quite comfortably on $25k a year (small 1 bedroom apt, 1996 Mazda Protege, etc.) I do so because I have been homeless and know what it feels like and because we live in an essentially unfair society (rigged for the rich) where many people have little to no chance at even middle class. Get a conscience and get a life you spoiled, rich prick -- AND DAMN WELL GIVE AWAY MOST OF YOUR $ TOO...

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    • zz if you were homeless once you might want to save a little more for the future...it is great to give away to charities if you can afford to...but don't keep putting yourself in a hole...as for adman i could really careless...money is money as long as your happy with what you got...congrats to all surf

    • You need help. It is exactly your kind of attitude that will keep you down. The folks who believe the "bul"*** you promote really run into trouble. Try reading what the next generation of black people are saying. Even in England they know that this type of liberal BS only serves the rich and those who are in political power.

      The real poor folks, want to work to get ahead. They won't be poor for long because they believe in a future. Belive in the future - that is the difference.

      Stick you head back into your hatred. I grew up in a family of 9 kids and we never had a lot but we loved each other. I never believed any of the liberal bul*** because in goes against nature. If you want to become something, you need to work at it. Try planting a garden, and you will find out what I mean.

      From your writing, I am sure that you are a lazy peron, with much hatred. Probably you don't like the christians in the US, get out and go home.

      • 1 Reply to tsmstrong
      • it is exactly your attitude that is wrong . when you bring up 'christians' you are holding them out to be 'superior'.
        i guess the 'inquisition', [which this stupid , unintelligable , moron ] 'bush' is trying to emulate and the destruction of our constitution by the 'patriot act' ,the establishment of a theocracy in the usa ,the use of power, oil and money to turn our country into the most corrupt on the planet , should be overlooked by those proclaiming 'faith'.
        you should be ashamed of yourself.
        ww2 enlistee

    • I don't get it .............

      whats with all the hostility......

      Oh well, I always thought investing was about making money ............

      class warfare by gosh ..........

      damn commie!!!!!!!!!!!

      LOL

    • If you want to give away every dime you make that is your business, but don�t try and lay a guilt trip on the rest of us. I also have been on the poor side of the tracks. When I was a young boy 60+ years ago, our home had no electricity, no running water and no indoor toilet. We ate everything we grew and everything we hunted (rabbit, deer, squirrel) and my mother made my shirts from old animal feed sacks, usually a bolt of printed linen, used to ship feed for farm animals. Our �treat� was robbing a beehive in the woods and being able to taste the sweet wild honey or getting a big red apple off the apple tree or wild blackberries alongside the creek banks. Candy was not an option. Basically, my childhood was growing up in a harsh environment.

      I managed, as well as a few of my siblings, to get above the poverty and finally arrive at a decent standard of living, but it wasn�t �given� to me. No charity, no handouts, nothing from the state or some rich uncle. Sure, some of my brothers and sisters never reached the standard of living I obtained, but it was because they had no desire to do so, but had every opportunity. My two older brothers, now deceased, never had the desire to educate themselves or wanted a life any better than what you apparently are content to live.

      Today, I am not rich, but I am middle class with income in the six figure bracket. Charity to me is helping my own family members first, then friends and neighbors. I do not give handouts to street peddlers or beggars (on rare occasion I give to the Salvation Army, but not other large organized charities for most of them pay their CEO six figure salaries and only a small percentage of the money collected actually goes to those it was meant to help.

      My question to you, are we who have worked to achieve financial success supposed to toe the Marxian line to redistribute our income, give away everything we have worked for and drop our standard of living in the process just so it makes you happy? Like hell!!!!!

    • Why the hostility? It is a free country-one can choose to pursue wealth or not, define it as they see fit, and once they have it, keep it or give it away. People generally achieve wealth in the service of others, (I'm an ER doctor, many of my patients pay nothing), not at the expense of others. IMO if you cannot achieve financial independence in this country, you have made some serious wrong decisions in your life. That's why millions risk their life to get in. Capitalism is far from perfect, it's just much better than any other system I know of.

      The top 1% of income earners in this country pay 34% of all personnal income tax collected, but earn 'only' 16% of all income. The top 10% pay about 72%, and the top half pay 97%, not to mention estate taxes. How much more progressive would you like the system to be? Actually one of the biggest problems with cutting government spending is that most tax payers pay so little federal income tax that there is little incentive to eliminate anything.

      PKZ remains tremendously undervalued despit the recent partial recovery, and as I have consistently said, a GREAT buy for the longterm.

      • 1 Reply to eckerlinejr
      • "How much more progressive would you like the system to be? Actually one of the biggest problems with cutting government spending is that most tax payers pay so little federal income tax that there is little incentive to eliminate anything."

        Exactly. Fact is, most people have no idea of
        the current tax structure. BTW, Tytler said it
        best many, many years ago.
        ---------------

        "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the public treasure.

        From that moment on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most money from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship.

        The average age of the world's great civilizations has been two hundred years. These nations have progressed through the following sequence: from bondage to spiritual faith, from spiritual faith to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependency, from dependency back to bondage."

        Sir Alexander Fraser Tytler (1748-1813) "Cycle of Nations" thesis in The Decline and Fall of the Athenian Republic

    • Good questions Deefl, and I don't have all the answers.... I just do what I think is right for me and tell others when I think they are clearly wrong/excessive... and I am far, far, far from a truly good person (ie lazy, self-indulgent, etc)

    • Sounds great. Being on the coast, I do a fair amount of ocean fishing - going out on charters. Last week we hit limit of sea bass (lots of fun - mostly four pounders). Striper trip next.

    • Rebel,

      I know quite a few native americans that are not Indians. But you have to be able to see the world through the eyes of the people you label as "Indian" and I don't know that you can.

    • be careful rebeldoe,

      I think it may be a commie trying to recruit u.

      careful

      signed,

      joe six pack

    • Or be like Ted Turner and give the UN $1 billion to piss away on corrupt nations already begging for debt relief.

      I'd rather he start another company and put people to work.
      TT the largest private landowner in the US.
      Buffalo Farmer - "go TED, feed those homeless some Buffalo Jerky"!!

      Adman a dumazz long since put on ignore!! DO THE SAME!!

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