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  • unitedfood unitedfood Jun 22, 2007 10:20 AM Flag

    So many shares

    .... still need to be bought

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    • i am asking the following question

      since there was obvious demand for someone to pay over ten dollars for the blue ridge shares

      why then were the funds that need to acquire shares today for the russell able to get millions of shares for only nine dollars and change? and where did they come from? thin air.

      fishy

    • sorry but the trading here has indeed been "fishy"

      a market maker would not be acquiring shares at over ten dollars a share for the purposes of later selling them at nine and change

    • "there was a buyer of a large lot over ten dollars a share after earnings" -

      Well, that depends what way you look at it, as far as who the buyer was ... what if the buyer WAS the market maker, one of them, or several of them, adding inventory in anticipation of this?

      This is my theory ... can go into more detail. This would explain why we haven't seen a form 4 filed with the SEC for the large block owner.

    • "pre-arranged???? sounds fishy." - not fishy at all ... institutions are able to issue buy and sell signals - levels of interest.

      And if you look at it, someone - presumably the market maker(s), have been accumulating inventory, possibly from short sellers as well trying to drive the price down, for the past two+ days - only to unload them at $9.36, or whatever today's closing price was/would've been.

    • "... and to think the market is supposed to be an even playing field" -

      That's the furthest from the truth ... the quicker we all learn that the better of we'll be.

    • .... and to think the market is supposed to be an even playing field

      sheeez

      when you see crap like this it makes you really question how the market operates

    • that does not sound legit at all

      when million share buy orders come in and there are no shares available to fill them the orders would simply not be filled and they would have to wait to buy them when shares are made available for sale presumably at a much higher price

      there was a buyer of a large lot over ten dollars a share after earnings

      and several funds were still able to get shares today at almost a dollar less per share ???

      pre-arranged???? sounds fishy.

    • Try to understand.

      These are ALL pre-negotiated transactions. ALL of these funds that needed to add shares to track the Russell would get them at the OFFICIAL CLOSING PRICE. Once that was determined ($9.36), it was only a matter of the market close coming to determine HOW MANY SHARES these institutions HAD to ACCUMULATE(once ALL CLOSING prices were determined for all deletions/additions to the index, etc., combined with the closing price would determine the market caps of each stock in the index).

      NONE OF THESE transactions ACTUALLY occurred at those - the funds KNEW they would need them, knew they would get them - just at matter of determining HOW MANY, then saying "Hey, I need 400k)

      That's really all their is to it - the other transactions after hours away from the price of apx. $9.36 are the Joe Schmoes like you and me that were trading a/h.

      See what I'm saying?

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    • as of 4:20 the last trade of the day was showing as the 1.8 million share block.....bringing the days total to 2.7 million shares.... so when did the other million share block execute prior to after hours ??? something does not add up.

      and once again WHY THE STEALTH?

      AND how is it that millions of shares can just fly with barely no price movement??

      something seems very UNUSUAL to say the least.

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