Do you really want to know who the fool is? Keep believing a company with a retained deficit of more than $80,000,000. You know what that number really represents? That's how bad REFR mislead shareholders. Ringing the bell was the kicker. I like this fact, the former CEO milked investors by $1,000,000 per year in comp. The new CEO is just as bad. Like Eagle said, REFR is nothing but a royalty company. It will never make real money for any investor. The SEC should shut down any company that routinely misleads investors. Oh, did you see the SDRG boards where Eagle caused a halt? Interesting stuff.