Anyone who think Dow is different is cheating on themself. Dow is still the largest producer of Caustic and Chlorine. All other Dow product is integrated to Chloriine and it's derivatives. The ahr. business counts for about a million and Speciality Chem is about 1.5 million sales. All the rest, such as PE, PU are commodity. I would say Dow did a good job to move away from consumer market, but as far as street is ocncerning, the company is still commodity play.