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  • gre9c5 gre9c5 Aug 24, 2006 2:48 PM Flag

    Union Haters

    China, Russia, Japan,Saudi Arabia, and India do not have unions, after you visit any of them let me know if you wish to live as they do

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    • republicansarenotchristians republicansarenotchristians Aug 24, 2006 7:11 PM Flag

      pablum, but i cant type worth a shit either.LOL LOL LOL

    • Most of them are myopic and besides they never learned to connect the dots. They have been fed the pablam and now regurgitate at every opportunity.

    • Yeah and they aren't worth a good fuk..I have one ..Good for nothing piece of nothing...Taxes here taxes there taxes everywhere...Want to cry about unions ..How about The NFL..NBA..MLB..these god like figures make multi-millions and union haters worship them with a passion that knows no bounds....Multi-Milionares with a union..Fuking country is like a huge walnut tree...Full of fuking nuts!..

    • That must be why those countries are walking all over the US companies. They are much more nimble and can react more efficiently to business needs. When the US auto industry is non-existant and all the UAW people are out of work, how will the person in India, Russia or China who does have an auto job be worse off than the unemployed US worker? Its called competition, and apparently the UAW doesn't want to accept reality yet.

      • 1 Reply to goober_pyle_2000
      • You really are ignorant. They get subsidized by their govs. They pay no or little tax to import to here they also are so interconnected that if they were to exist in the US they would be a monopoly. Do you even understand that for an American car to sell in China the Chinese gov taxes the car at twice the US cost of the car. A 20,000 car sells for over 60,000 in US dollars in China while they will intro athe Geely here next yr for about 8,000. Either travel,read or speak on what you know.

    • finally an Intelligent post!!!!!!!!!

    • Japan has unions but they work with the companies instead of against them.

    • iluvamuffin Aug 24, 2006 2:58 PM Flag

      I'm definitely not a union hater however I would like to respond to your situation at the moment. Your company is in trouble at this particular time and needs your help, you have two choices yes or no (on the help issue), if you choose to help it may save you an awfull lot in the long run. If you should choose not to help at this moment in history you stand to lose a lot. If you should doubt that look at the airlines. Some helped enough some didn't. It doesn't matter who put your company in this position, whether it be bad management, goverment or just the overall competition and economy you still would be very smart to help them by this situation looking for better times down the road.

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      • republicansarenotchristians republicansarenotchristians Aug 24, 2006 7:04 PM Flag

        Management never helps the company.They always push pay cuts and benefit cuts on labor, low and mid level management. upper management level never takes a pay decrease, almost invaribly takes pay increase along with package increase, look at Delphi, perfect example of all the blame is labor, push the pay cuts on the workers and turn around and increase all your upper level management pay packages.

      • Should the unions help, sure but there is more. Last night (TV) they talked about pension reform, expensing options etc., bottom line appeared to be companies have to 2010 or 15 ,(don't recall) to correct the lies. Also stated the gov is making exceptions for auto and airlines the 2 biggest. All I am saying if you believe it is only the unions and not colusion with the gov. (Dems and Reps) you are being led right down the path to living in a 3rd world country which unfortunately will encompass the entire planet.

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