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  • this_is_a_deal this_is_a_deal Dec 7, 2008 1:28 PM Flag

    GM is in deep $hit


    If will be taken you look at all the news wires, There debt load can't be carried. Ever Dodd says ford is in the best shape of the 3 becuase they made turns when needed and profits in Q1 and Q2. GM Will be taken control of by the Goverment and ford will get a extended line of crited. FORD gonna sky rocket it's in the cards and news.

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    • If you look at the larger picture, virtually EVERYONE is in debt.

      The [Banks] have made us their slaves.

      That's what needs to change!

      Be a patroit. Kick a [Banker] in the Wallet!


    • I Personally Like Ford and feel Ford is in much better shape then GM, that's for sure. IMO

      BUT!! Unless the U.S. Economy in general, starts to get Much Better in the first part of 2009, I See only more Unemployment & Home Foreclosers in 2009, sorry to say. IMO

      So Bottom line again is: - Who will buy a New car in 2009 IF?? a DEPRESSION is comming.??

      Economy Loses 533,000 Jobs in November: Is this a start of a Depression?

      by: Peter Morici December 07, 2008

      On Friday, the Labor Department reported the economy lost 533,000 payroll jobs in November, after losing 320,000 jobs in October and 403,000 jobs in September. This was much worse than was expected and represents wholesale capitulation. The threat of a widespread depression is now real and present.

      Unemployment increased to 6.7 percent in November; however, factoring in discouraged workers, unemployment is closer to 8.7 percent. Add workers in part time positions that cannot find full time employment and the hidden unemployment rate is nearly 13 percent.

      Recession or Depression?
      The economy has been slowing since December 2007. The real question is whether the economy is in a recession or depression?

      Recessions are like stock market corrections—after a time, equity prices rebound without government intervention. Federal Reserve interest rate cuts and stimulus tax rebates and spending have shortened the lives and eased the impact of post-World War II recessions, but those policies did not end them. The economy self corrected.

      A depression is not self-correcting. Roosevelt Administration stimulus packages—huge deficit spending—eased the pain but failed to end the Great Depression. Roosevelt’s policies did not put the U.S. economy on a sustainable growth path, because New Deal policies worsened structural problems that pulled the economy down in the first place. For example, the New Deal proliferated monopoly pricing, extended the life of undersized farms, raised structural savings rates, and created a system of home lending too dependent on federally sponsored banks.

      However, stimulus spending, alone, won’t fix what’s broke. It didn’t end the Great Depression. Japan has had a succession of stimulus spending over the last two decades and that has failed to restore its economic dynamism. Similarly, President-elect Obama’s massive stimulus package, alone, won’t fix the U.S. economy. He must also reach into the management of the banks, and dramatically reduce U.S. dependence on imported oil and the trade deficit with China. The alternative is economic stagnation or worse, a depression.

      The challenges facing President-elect Barack Obama could not be clearer. The current economic slowdown has two structural causes—bad management practices at the large money center banks and the huge foreign trade deficit.

      Near term, a stimulus package focused on infrastructure is critical for resuscitating growth. The recent round of tax rebate checks ended up in savings accounts or spent at the Wal-Mart on Chinese goods, and did little to create jobs or accelerate growth. Whereas projects to repair roads, rehabilitate schools and refurbish public buildings would create high-paying jobs at home and provide a legacy in capital improvements that assist growth now and in the future.

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