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  • bagboy52 bagboy52 Sep 25, 2012 12:17 PM Flag

    Ford's Debt

    Where is Ford in the process of paying down it's (auto debt) that got them through the recession and restructuring. I have not seen any recent news about debt reduction.

    I would love to see Ford do something for shareholder value. A dividend increase comes with some risk due to macro downturns. It needs to be sustainable before it's increased. A share buyback is a one time expense.

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    • I recently heard an equities analyst discuss more companies are turning to share buyback programs instead of dividends to return shareholder value. Much safer since they can be put on hold if macro conditions change.

      Just comparing (F) to (GM).... (F)'s market cap is higher than (GM).

      • 2 Replies to bagboy52
      • The problem with a buy back is that shares increase, then they sell to take profits and the share price comes back down.

        With a dividend increase, it will stifle the shorts and give some more money for the Ford Family which is where the company goals are at. The increase in dividends will also increase the share price after a short time drop.

        Sentiment: Strong Buy

      • When sitting on a cash hoard with nothing better to do with it then a buyback or one time divy would be appropriate. However Ford is burning a lot of cash in the build of the China manufacturing infrastructure and debt paydown so the cash hoard has been relatively stable. Nothing to really merit a large buyback at this point of the business unless the price of shares was grossly misvalued i.e. the $5-7 range some nuts were calling for F.

        Will reiterate cash flow gains from lower financing interest costs could be redirected to shareholders in the form of a divy and have little to no material impact on Ford's cash flow or balance sheet. F would have to lose investment grade to reverse course on financing costs. My opinion has been no bump until S&P delivers the last upgrade of the trio but F could validate their reasoning of a divy bump to a full dime given reduced interest expense.

        Sentiment: Strong Buy

    • Bagboy52,

      Very helpful that
      that you cited
      the sustainability
      issue. Any increase
      in the dividend rate
      must be sustainable.
      A temporary increase
      would serve to harm the
      stability of the PPS. I
      do agree with with Smalls
      that a 5cent increase would
      move the share price upward
      significantly. When Europe
      recovers, this is may occur.

    • They are pretty close on their target debt level goals but repayment on the cheap gov't loans will begin. I would like to see Ford roll all their bonds over on much cheaper interest rates due to investment grade rating. F will be saving a ton of interest finance charges. The savings is large enough to validate a divy bump of a nickel.

      Sentiment: Strong Buy

    • D eath to all political posters and spammers! Bumping all Ford posts!

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