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  • McMEM McMEM Jan 3, 2006 4:04 PM Flag

    ABC news on republicans

    The dems are pro-spending and republicans want to reduce govenment size. Right? ABC reported that this claim is totally false for the last 50 years.

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    • These worn out claims of "manipulating the market" are so easy to make, since you are not required to present any credible evidence, much less any real proof.

      Exactly what mechanism do assert (or even imagine) that Bush uses to "manipulate" the world oil market? How does he do it? And given the flack he was taking for the rise in oil prices (and gasoline), why would he?

      You are starting to sound like IRA....

    • >>The freeway will be there long after your SUV is in the junk heap. Also, I'll bet most of that SUV-generated pollution you are worried about was emitted hauling those spoiled kids back and forth to soccer etc etc

      I do not know who missed the point. What has Jr. done so far that does not benefit his friends?

      Jr. blocked every attempt to improve gas mileage. Jr. also manipulated the oil market to collapse the small oil companies so that his friends could buy them cheap to eliminate competitions.

      Still think Jr. cannot manipulate the oil market? At $60 per barrel, the crude oil cost is around $1.50 per gallon. Why do you think the gasoline $ dropped from $3 to $2 before X'mas?

    • Looks to me as if "employees" are not doing too badly in this economy:

      http://www.economagic.com/em-cgi/daychart.exe/form

      As you will note, the drop started in mid-2000 while Clinton still in office. The recovery started in mid-2002, and is progressing nicely.

      As anyone who takes the time to study the data knows, compensation expansion (along with employment rate expansion) tends to lag in time behind the start of a recovery.

      But we all know that the Dem strategy of trying to convince the "working man" he is being screwed is all they have in their bag of tricks. The problem is, most voters have long ago figured out that when they say "stick it to the rich", the stick will go into them.

    • Re:

      "As for the schools...aren't you liberals the ones always screaming to pour even more money down the rat-hole of the "education" system?"

      So now bush/neo-cons/et. al. are rathole pouring liberals?...no child left behind, the education president, ..., if you teach a kid to read he will pass a reading test, we have to ask: Is our childeren learning...

    • Sqzr asks:

      "What is your point? Would it have been better to not have wages go up 3%?"

      Several points depending on your point of view:

      1. Wages going up 3% when the cost of living (medical insurance, housing cost, gas prices, heating oil prices..., (sometimes referred to as inflation) indicates "real wages" went down, yet braggable by the POTUS as indicator of a Rocking Economy.

      2. For management, business owners, stock holders, conservatives, and non-wage earning consumers, it certainly would have been better to not have wages go up.

      You're doin' a hellaofa job bushie.

      Just ask him.

    • You clearly miss the point. The freeway will be there long after your SUV is in the junk heap. Also, I'll bet most of that SUV-generated pollution you are worried about was emitted hauling those spoiled kids back and forth to soccer, music, karate, SAT tutoring, the mall, and all the other crap the "next generation" is being given these days.

      If the they have to pay the piper a little bit in the future, so be it.

      As for the schools...aren't you liberals the ones always screaming to pour even more money down the rat-hole of the "education" system?

    • So? What is your point? Would it have been better to not have wages go up 3%? I always get kick out of those who complain that wage increases have to go to pay for something...remember, there is ALWAYS something to spend your money on.

    • Don't forget about the part that she/they have to provide transportation for the equipment. Humilating?

      Now, hope you appreciate how stupid to say that future generations should pay for our current expenditures. Should they pay for the freeway for our SUV and then pay for the cleanup of the pollution?

      Doesn't matter. With the school system, they cannot spell and read anyway.

    • Re:

      " only mentioned that subject in response to your continued rant that "working stiffs" are being short-changed in this rocking econonmy."

      I heard it from the man this morning. POTUS Bush informed the nation that wages went up 3% last year. Rock On.

      Probably enough to pay for the gas increase to get to work, and mebbe the delta in heating oil.

    • IRA,

      Please don't confuse my citing of the auto workers benefits as defense of auto company management. They have been dolts (in part for ever agreeing to such labor contract terms).

      I only mentioned that subject in response to your continued rant that "working stiffs" are being short-changed in this rocking econonmy.

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