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  • b767cpt b767cpt Jul 20, 2011 10:05 PM Flag

    Question of Time?

    With the way representative Bleray from Calif was hammering Dr Shuren over the delay and how "young children" with melanoma are suffering because of not having the benefit of early diagnosis, what is the possibility that they may just try and adhere to the six month time frame from the filed amendment? Do we hear by the middle of next month?

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    • Me <<"pretty much 100 percent of people who have the sense to see a doctor at a reasonable time are cured" - Not true.>>

      fish <<The testimony in front of the FDA panel of a dermatologist who herself did not initially choose to biopsy her own early melanoma belies your claim. Later she showed it to SEVERAL of her colleagues and they all said it was nothing and not to biopsy it. She decided to biopsy it anyway and it turned out to be melanoma.>>

      If she had not biopsied it herself she unlikely would not have died. Obviously the reason the other doctors did not think it was melanoma was because it was so small. What would happen is that the doctor would tell the patient "It probably is not melanoma, but keep an eye on it and notify me if it grows" In doing that the melanoma would still be dfetected very early.

      And I doubt that the mela thing would have diagnosed it either--it uses the same criteria a doctor uses.

      And finally, even if you found ONE case where doctors could not cure someone who came in with early symptoms, that would be ONE case, which would not contradict my claim that approximately 100 percent of the time a doctor will be able to cure a patient who comes in when symptoms appear.

    • minnow brain <<So which is it, 80, 90 or 100%, or are they all the same to you?>>

      They refer to different things, you idiot. The 80 to 90 percent refer to the overall cure rate, and the 100 percent refer to the approximate cure rate for people who see their doctor when obvious symptoms are present.

      Ironically, he who did not understand that the numbers were referring to different things mockingly said to me <<Are they all the same to you?>>

    • irie <<Take that! General! is your mom around? I miss her..>>

      She misses you, too. She very much enjoyed sharing recipes and cleaning tips with you.

    • <<At best your statement should read "any reasonable person who sees a doctors when obvious symptoms occur has close to a 100 percent chance of being alive in 5 years", which is itself still an overstatement of what the statistics you put forth actually say.>>

      No it is not, minnow-brain. My claim is a mathematical claim. You, with this mathematical claim as with my mathematical claim that it was almost certain you were lying about your two close friends you claimed were diagnosed this year, cannot be disputed by you just calling it an overstatement--you can ONLY dispute it by finding an ACTUAL ERROR in my CALCULATION. It is not surprising that someone who is so full of hype thinks one can dispute math by just claiming, without proof, that it is wrong.

    • <<Have you had a flight physical recently?>>

      Have you checked the MO board recently?

    • fish <<You are also a blatant and prolific liar>>

      Do your 10,000 close friends you implied you have agree with you?

    • <<You also think that the fact that the MelaFind housing is made of plastic makes it a toy.>>

      Not all toys are made of plastic. (And more importantly, not all plastic things are toys).

    • <<I will take the experts assessment, and not just one expert but virtually all of them, who say this is an important issues. MelaFind was even granted fast track status based on the fact that it addresses an important unmet medical need.>>

      Since Mein Fish Fuhrer, you believe in the authority of experts, the experts have chosen to not approve the mela thing at this time.

      So while they think it is urgent to find help for melanoma, and they are fast tracking that field, they think so little of the mela thing that they are snubbing it despite their urgent interest in anything that could *seriously* help with melanoma.

    • <<On another note, as usual, I can see that Fish has pushed your buttons again! 8) >>

      Strange you see it that way. A sane person would see the situation as me having fun pointing out fishes lies, and him becoming very defensive about it.

      Have you had a flight physical recently?

    • fish_discover_water_last fish_discover_water_last Jul 25, 2011 10:39 AM Flag

      So which is it, 80, 90 or 100%, or are they all the same to you?

      "pretty much 100 percent of people who have the sense to see a doctor at a reasonable time are cured" - Not true.

      The testimony in front of the FDA panel of a dermatologist who herself did not initially choose to biopsy her own early melanoma belies your claim. Later she showed it to SEVERAL of her colleagues and they all said it was nothing and not to biopsy it. She decided to biopsy it anyway and it turned out to be melanoma.

      As I said before multiple non-MELA studies have shown that derm sensitivity for any given office visit is roughly 80%. Every dermatologist readily admits that they routinely miss melanomas. The fact that they catch it later, early enough to keep the patient alive for at least 5 years is not the point. Early diagnosis reduces the risk of eventual mortality from melanoma AND greatly reduces the cost and trauma of later diagnosis.

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