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  • stoli14 stoli14 Sep 7, 2005 9:23 AM Flag

    Michigan Hire

    The University of Michigan just hired one of the "brains" (Stephan R. Forrest) who was involved with PANL at Princeton. Below is an except of his bio from UM. Will this impact PANL?

    "Dr. Forrest is a member of the National Academy of Engineering and a Fellow
    of the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers (IEEE) and of
    the Optical Society of America. He received the IEEE/Laser and Electro-Optics
    Society (LEOS) Distinguished Lecturer Award in 1996-1997, and in 1998 he
    was co-recipient of the Intellectual Property Owners National Distinguished
    Inventor Award, as well as the Thomas Alva Edison Award for innovations
    in organic light-emitting devices. In 1999, he was awarded the Material
    Research Society Medal for work on organic thin films, and in 2001, he
    received the IEEE/LEOS William Streiter Scientific Achievement Award for
    advances made on photodetectors for optical communication systems.

    He is co-founder or founding participant in several companies, including
    Sensors Unlimited; Epitaxx, Incorporated; Global Photonic Energy Corporation;
    Universal Display Corporation; and ASIP, Incorporated. He has served as
    editor and associate editor for the Journal of Quantum Electronics, and
    he is on the IEEE/LEOS Board of Governors. He serves or has served on
    a number of professional committees and a number of advisory and editorial

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    • That's the normal thing when a researcher moves. Unless they are really at the beginning of their studies they keep enrolled at the original institution, otherwise they have to take additional qualifiers and so on. After they have finished their coursework, they can register for "thesis research" and do not have to be in residence at Princeton. Not a problem for the students or for the research project.


      >so what happens to the graduate research assistants...
      >do they move to UM to finish up their work for the PU
      >grad degree?

    • << what happens to the graduate research they move to UM to finish up their work for the PU grad degree?>>

      Typically, if you entered your graduate study in Princeton. (say last week before Forrest's hire) you move onto UM do 5 years (as an average) towards your Doctorate and all of your research at UM you still get your degree from Princeton and do your oral dissertation before the Princeton Board. In which case Forrest as well would have to fly out to Princeton...So it's where you begin that counts and not necessarily where you study.
      Now say you have a family or you can't move for some reason. The option is to transfer to another Faculty Member in the Dept and hopefully he/she will sign-off on your topic and let you complete studies. Otherwise you're kinda screwed. You will have to find a new research topic.
      Finally, there maybe one or two students who are all but finished or are close to the writing stage. They would remain here to finish up.

    • They will have a great contribution to their resume....

    • what happens to the graduate research they move to UM to finish up their work for the PU grad degree?

    • I'm thinking that this indicates the obstacles UDC is addressing for commercializing PHOLEDs are more technical than technological. They said they made a significant technological breakthrough when they achieved the long-lived blue and UDCs researchers were deeply involved with that.

    • For the record, agree with Wasure. This is a "natural" course of events.

      Also agree with P-tech. Forrest et al. will continue to contribute important work in the field of organic electronics, which looks to me to be in the top of the first inning when it comes to commercialization.

      As for UDC, this is extremely unlikely, in my opinion, to be a negative. It's in Steve Forrest's best interests to have UDC succeed, both financially and, I'd bet, in his heart. UDC will maintain a relationship with Princeton (which does not have a history of throwing away money) and start one with Michigan.

      This must be Michigan's way to get back at Princeton for stealing Harold Shapiro as president.

    • It is quite possible that we are mixing up our feelings as investors in UDC with the presence of the Dr. Forrest in Princeton which does not at this point have to coincide.

      Look at the bigger picture. Dr. Forrest got into OLEDs on the ground floor. His work helped to cover new ground and circumvent Kodak's dominance in the field. The OLEDs are are actually producing pictures and video. The only issue remaining are the Longevity and some technical/production difficulties which may not have theoretical or scientific solutions.

      Why shouldn't Dr. Forrest start into new research subjects in a bigger greener field? UDC and Princeton have the patents and a business venture going. Dr. Forrest has secured his rights in royalties and stock. I am sure that he continues to be motivated by the future rewards and his present contracts cover any help he might need to give UDC. So what is the problem?

    • If UDC continues its relationship with Prof. Forrest and others to help commercialize new and different technology, it changes how I view the company significantly. This model could well turn UDC into the next Intel.

    • LOL. That post made my morning.

    • Sorry for the rabbit ears. Irony is a difficult tone to hear on the bbs. If you look at the OCM page, you'll see Forrest's research has alot of different platforms. Yet all of them are related to organic materials for photonics. Quite frankly, his work may have begun to be constrained here at Princeton. It is a very small campus compared to anything you'd find in the Big Ten. The Electrical Engineering Dept. had the highest amount of applications and consequentially the highest amount of rejections for its graduate program.
      Forrest's labs were sprawled all over the Enineering quad and into the Materials Institute. In addition w/ the departure of Thompson, supporting research from Chemistry and was all but nil. And right now the Chem Dept. is in disarray. They lost 5 tenured faculty in this past year to other Universities. (2 went to Harvard, 2 went to Duke, 1 went to UVA. In retrospect UM appears to be a positive move for Forrest and UDC.
      He'll no doubt gain a much larger infrastructure. He'll have access to UM's Chem Dept (one of the best in the Big Ten). Room and lab space for bigger groups. He'll also have a very like minded associate on the Faculty w/ Max Schtein one of the co-creators for OVPD and OVJP.
      As for Princeton, they still have the contract till 2008 as I recall. Grad student working in presently in the OCM will still get their degrees from Princeton. And Princeton still has Sturm and Kahne in EE who have many of the patents on flexibility and ink jetting. No doubt despite the loss they'll survive and I'm sure they tried like hell to keep him. But it's hard to compete against the kind of facilities, academic support and infrastructure that UM appears to already have in place.

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