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  • tommiegun53 tommiegun53 Oct 4, 2012 10:22 PM Flag

    MTG On Hold To Test and Accumulate Shares From Weak Holders

    Big players know that putting a stock into a holding pattern when the general market is moving higher will cause some shareholders to sell. Then the accumulation continues as impatient shareholders sell and vacate their positions and, they scoop up the shares at lower prices.

    When they are ready(Big Shareholders), they will take the share price higher. As new shareholders jump in, they sell some of the shares making a nice profit and then repeat the process again.

    MGIC is weaker than Radian and they have unresolved issues, that Radian doesn't have. So, Radian is going to outperform MTG. But, remember that MGIC will benefit from the sector strenght and, they will get a share of the new business being generated by a strong mortgage origination environment.

    The "MGIC Monthly Operating Statistics Report for September" will be a catalyst for MTG.

    "Moral of the story", don't be impatient and know when you have a stock that is undervalued, like MTG.

    Sentiment: Buy

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    • Day-in and day-out, good news comes from the housing sector. Shorts can stick the heads in the sand if they care to. Eventually, MTG is going to fly!

      Sentiment: Strong Buy

    • for the year, I agree that RDN will outperform MTG by Dec31

      but I believe that for the rest of the year, or as of Sept1 or especially about Aug15, MTG will outperform RDN.

      I'm expecting the NIW data will be similar for RDN and MTG but MTG will gain more upside (or, depending on your POV, regain losses). And, on earnings Q3, MTG will greatly outperform. I think MTG could be neutral to slightly outperform expectations (since expectations have raised somewhat on NIW) but I believe RDN has potential to either slightly outperform or under perform simply because expectations are higher and the stock has more downside (the same downside that MTG decided to just 'take on the chin' and 'get it over with' at the end of last quarter).

      Briefly, YTD and also long-term, I like $RDN... but I'm much more long $MTG up until, and maybe through, Q3 report. I haven't decided yet if I'd hold through earnings announcement yet.

      Sentiment: Buy

    • Good moral advice Tommie. I agreed with you.

      Sentiment: Strong Buy

    • Although MGIC doesn't publish a daily report on company operations, let the macroeconomic data of the mortgage market environment be your guide:

      "Foreclosures Decline but Remain High, Prepayments Surge: LPS "

      10/03/2012 By: Krista Franks Brock, DSNEWS

      Foreclosure inventory continues to decline but remains more than eight times what it was in the decade prior to the housing crisis, according to the latest report from Lender Processing Services (LPS).

      Noncurrent loans make up 10.9 percent of all loans as of August, demonstrating a year-over-year change of -7.6 percent, according to LPS.

      As of August, the delinquency rate stands at 6.9 percent, and the foreclosure rate is 4.0 percent.

      There remains a large gap in the foreclosure rate between judicial states and non-judicial states. In fact, in judicial states the rate remains near an all-time high of 6.49 percent, while the foreclosure rate in non-judicial states is 2.28 percent.

      The amount of loans 90 or more days delinquent is near half of its January 2010 peak. The majority of these loans are more than nine months delinquent. About 43 percent are at least 12 months delinquent.

      The overall delinquency rate declined 2.3 percent in August.

      States ranking highest for non-current loans include Florida, Mississippi, New Jersey, Nevada, and New York.

      States with the lowest percentages of non-current loans include Montana, Alaska, South Dakota, Wyoming, and North Dakota.

      LPS noted prepayment activity was up “significantly” in August, nearing levels last reported in 2005.

      The annualized prepayment rate at the end of August was almost 25 percent, according to LPS’ findings.

      Prepayment was highest among loans with higher combined loan-to-value ratios (CLTVs). For example, among loans with more than 120 percent CLTV, prepayment increased more than 65 percent year to date.

      According to LPS, this trend is significant because prepayments are an indicator of refinance activity.

      In August, 2011 vintage loans experienced a 23 percent increase in prepayments over the month.

      Loans with vintages from 2007 and earlier experienced a prepayment increase of just 9 percent, which LPS interprets as signs of a “refi burn out.”

      “[I]t is also becoming evident that loans originated in 2007 and earlier have diminished prospects for conventional refinancing opportunities,” stated Herb Blecher, SVP of applied analytics at LPS.

      “Fewer than 30 percent of these vintages remain both active and current, and on average, they are marked by larger negative equity positions and lower credit scores,” Blecher explained.

      Sentiment: Buy

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