Recent

% | $
Quotes you view appear here for quick access.

Ship Finance International Limited Message Board

  • staggman99 staggman99 Sep 17, 2011 1:59 PM Flag

    HIGH DIVIDEND INVESTING....

    Board members...I am posting a two year chart on my "current core investments" because I would like for investors to see the value of high dividend investing...

    Please note that three of my holdings are out of the money (at a current loss).. however, if I add back the last two years dividends all of my holdings are in the money...

    My average weighted dividend at this time is about 14.8%...my worst holdings at this time on the two year chart is IVR (yield 19.5%), ARR (yield 19.7%) and GABUX (yield 13.7%), but with dividend add backs I am still in the money with my three chart losers....it would be nice to be able to run a easy chart with "dividend add backs"....


    At this time my winners overrun my losers by a strong margin....one of my keys is to try and keep my holdings at near equal value...and most of the time I have about ten holdings, which at least eight are usually long term holdings....

    At this time I am still buying SDRL, SFL and PETDX for portfolio balance, and I may sell a small amount of AGNC for profit...Good luck to all...!

    http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=RSO+Interactive#chart11:symbol=rso;range=2y;compare=arr+agnc+petdx+gabux+sdrl+sfl+ivr;indicator=volume;charttype=line;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=on;source=undefined

    SortNewest  |  Oldest  |  Most Replied Expand all replies
    • ..."Re: Yes, SFL is indeed the larger midget. 20-Sep-11 12:27 am Ha Ha, you lost another dividend payment today. Oh, that's right, you don't look at the value in your brokerage account, preferring the Bernie Madoff way instead, so trying to convince you that you lost money today is pointless."....

      This proves my point allnuts that you're a blithering idiot and this alisas fits right in with your paucity of investment knowledge. How can I loose money when I'm not selling this GEM until it hits $50 and it will since it already hit $32 in 2008. I can wait for that big payday which very few idiots like you can even conjure up, Yuk Yuk So sorry you got so worked up at my paper trade losses, allnuts, but that's how you inveterate, addicted gamblers evaluate a stock and instead of buying, holding it and waiting for the big payoff while collecting unheard of divvys in the process, you play risky naked stock options and refer to it as investing. Yuk Yuk


      marklibera

    • Thank you for your insights. The question to me with all my high div investments is: how safe is the dividend???

      Just look at FRO and PRGN. I've lost hugely on both. Anyone with opinions on the safety of SFL?

      • 1 Reply to npindrus
      • npindrus...Dividends are never safe, but stocks that pay no/low dividends are not safe either...I do not have a crystal ball on SFL, but I feel that the current leasing out of some off shore drilling rigs by SFL provides a little bit more amount of safety...

        If FRO would go bankrupt, no doubt SFL would suffer very strongly because of the number of their ships leased to them...I just don't see FRO going out of business, low profit yes...out of business no...

        My Model is to hold about eight to ten high dividend paying stocks and if I am right on my picks 60% of the time, I should make good money...my long term success rate has myself being right about 70% of the time on my picks...

        I do not worry about a holding dropping in share price as much as I do about a cut in the dividend...a strong on going dividend gives an investor a lot of slack to play with...

        Please look at my portfolio chart again and add a 20% to 40% gain to all of the stocks on the chart because the chart does not do dividend add backs...therefore, we can add two years dividends to all share prices on the chart...

        In the future you may want to use some covered calls or stop loss orders for safety...at this time I feel that SDRL is a bit of a better buy than SFL because the off shore drilling market is red hot (I am a buyer of both)...Good luck to you and keep in touch...!

    • Susan..You are the one that talked me into buying IVR, but it is my fault that I am losing money on it...I never should have listened to a mean, evil, wicked woman that may be into witchcraft...thank goodness that IVR pays a nice dividend that will help cushion the drop in share price...

      That said, you never did make a comment on my chart with my holdings (did you look at it...?)...remember, that all the lines on my chart should be about 20% to 40% higher on the percentage scale when my dividends for the last two years are added back...

      I know, you will not make a comment on my chart because it would make me look good...it would be nice if you ran a chart on your other stuff to to show us how you are doing in the markets...Have a great day and please cut back on the late night booze...!

    • price over $18.50.....sold $20 puts for some nice premiums. at that price.....My last sale of those puts was for $1.60 per share.....for a net cost of $18.60....got out of those last few positions for $2.20 for a loss of 60 cents per share but from last Jan thru July made some nice money there....Another reason to stay with options rather than over-pay for IVR like you did!. As for predicting a stock will go up, there are very very few stocks with a higher price now than they hadin early July..... That is why when I do acquire stock I always sell covered calls against the position....it is downside protection in tough times

    • Ha Ha, you lost another dividend payment today. Oh, that's right, you don't look at the value in your brokerage account, preferring the Bernie Madoff way instead, so trying to convince you that you lost money today is pointless.

    • Stagg, with all due respect, my comment relates to Susan's call on SFL that was made when it was trading in the $20's. It is a common debate strategy for those losing a point to bring up other points to distract from the fact that they are losing the argument. My comment did not relate to Susan's other comments and picks -- in fact, I mentioned the other day how wrong she was when she said EVEP could never trade at $80 (technically she is still right about that because EVEP has only rallied 30 points from the time that she made that comment, up to the mid $70's).

      Susan's investment strategy is primarily a put seller. I don't know of any studies that say that one particular investment strategy (i.e. buy and hold, etc.) is always better than a different one. Because she's a put seller, to produce a gain with that strategy, she doesn't have to have the stock go up. Therefore, it follows that she doesn't make a lot of predictions about stocks going up. It's not up to us to determine which is the best investment strategy for her because we don't know her risk tolerance or financial situation. Just because she doesn't publicize "long" predictions doesn't mean that her call on SFL was wrong, and in fact, it was right, at least during the period that I am familiar with.

    • Oh, you met staggs friend Susan?

      I do not really understand your comment about the article.

      But, I spotteed it before & thought stagg might want to see it.

    • "...Re: OT /stagg.....interesting article 17 minutes ago."...

      sandonthebe...

      "Interesting article" are you kidding me, sand? This the kind of positive news that you get from stagg, myself and other ligit investors on this thread, not the fear crap you get from the likes of con artists like sid66, allnuts aka allnightdat (and their many phony aliases).

    • ...."There he goes again with outright lies about SFL and its dividend. SFL kept the dividend the same over the last quarter. here is the dividend record:

      http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/Stocks...

      They did raise it for 5 quarter in a row PREVIOUSLY, but that streak ended this last quarter. Perhaps you cannot read or understand that 39 cents is not a raise over the 39 cents paid the previous quarter. You can't answer this because you know you are caught in a misstatement, like your hero Soros, the convicted inside trader"...

      Oh boy allnuts aka allnightdat, now we all know you are mentally challenged, since you have trouble deciphering what I actually wrote and here is what I actually said in my post, doofus verbatim...."For example name me one shipping stock that like SFL has raised its dividend 5 straight qtrs. in a global recession, doofus?" Did I say including the last dividend.? Of course not, allnuts,
      because I knew if I did you'd sneak out from behind Your ignore button (Yuk Yuk) like the coward you are and have one of your aliases call me on it. But like the stupid mental retard you are, you fell in the trap. Yuk Yuk



      "If you are going to state an opinion about SFL, don't make up facts. BTW, Susan has been right about SFL since her call at $19 at the same time you said it was going to $30,"....

      How about since $23, allnuts? My prediction of $30 and more will easily come to fruition long before sid makes any money on her risky naked options. Yuk Yuk

      ..."so you are the one with the con job and lying about their dividend record to convince people to buy it now."...

      Again click onto my post airhead and read it as I wrote it, not the way you tried your alias to doctor it up.


      ...."Learn how to spell and/or type. The word is "sophisticated" not "sophisticating." Don't they have a course on the ward?"...

      I spelled it right allnuts, just put in an ing instead of an ed. No problem just a small typo. But you made a bigger boo boo, allnuts by again accusing Soros of "insider trading" when he declined to be a part of the bank deal and bought his stock after the bank deal had transpired. Tell the board, numbnuts, how you can be convicted of "insider trading" when Soras wasn't involved with the bank deal and only bought the bank stock after the deal????????????
      You are one dumb friggin idiot, allnuts aka allnightbat. Yuk Yuk

      marklibera

    • mark...With all due respect Susan has been predicting a major pull back in SFL "for years" (no joke)...If I predict rain even day for several years and then one day it rains, can I really say that I was right...?

      Susan is almost always a bear, if and when Susan predicts a stock will go up in price I want somebody to call it to my attention....

      I have only ever seen Susan predict one stock to go up in value and that stock was IVR and after IVR fell in share price by over 20% she started saying to sell it...now that is really scary...!!!

    • View More Messages
 
SFL
15.15+0.09(+0.60%)Aug 26 4:02 PMEDT