Maybe if the stock goes low enough the CIBER board of directors will wake up and clean house. (yea right) What kind of principles is Mac operating with: Ignore your clients, ignore you consultants, use an outdated business model, get advice from magazine articles, listen to your yes men. I think if they had made no management decision at all during the past year the company would be in better shape. As the saying goes, "If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail". The hammer being a staff augmentation business model. CIBER has 'one vision' all right, and it's looking out the back window.