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  • intentoserjusto intentoserjusto Dec 6, 2004 1:48 AM Flag

    oracle even faster on windows

    "From what we're seeing and what we're going to see next week at Oracle OpenWorld, that's going to change. Oracle is embracing Windows and made a commitment to work with Microsoft and with Unisys," Manter said. The result should be better performance and more bang for the buck for those running Oracle software on Unisys' ES7000 server, which can accommodate as many as 32 Intel Xeon processors and 16 Intel Itanium processors.

    hhttp://news.zdnet.com/2100-3513_22-5477001.html

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    • "oracle even faster on windows"

      Faster than what?

      Fran

    • > "From what we're seeing and what we're going
      > to see next week at Oracle OpenWorld, that's
      > going to change. Oracle is embracing Windows
      > and made a commitment to work with Microsoft
      > and with Unisys," Manter said. The result
      > should be better performance and more bang
      > for the buck for those running Oracle
      > software on Unisys' ES7000 server, which can
      > accommodate as many as 32 Intel Xeon
      > processors and 16 Intel Itanium processors.
      >
      >h++p://news.zdnet.com/2100-3513_22-5477001.html

      I thought what was more interesting was this article:

      http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9593_22-5220881.html?tag=nl

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      • This is the one that should have Oracle up at night with the cold sweats:

        http://news.zdnet.com/2100-3513_22-5171543.html?tag=nl

        "Following in the footsteps of the Linux operating system, open-source databases are moving toward mainstream use and threatening proprietary software alternatives, according to a new survey.

        "Open-source databases are in the experimentation phase of the market but will move to widespread acceptance by 2006," the AMR Research study said. AMR surveyed 140 information technology managers in December and released results this month.

        The underlying code of open-source software programs can be freely viewed, modified and redistributed by anyone, a stark contrast to tightly controlled proprietary software such as databases from Oracle, IBM and Microsoft. Challenges will come from three contenders in the open-source database market: MySQL, MaxDB and PostgreSQL, AMR said."


        And this is even more telling:

        " "The most immediate impact on traditional database vendors will be the inability to upgrade and upsell customers easily (and profitably) beyond 2006," the report said. "



        Oracle may be embracing Linux now but once the bottom line starts to erode and major customers refuse to upgrade because they can get "good enough" for free, they will certainly have to start fighting open-source or they will perish.

    • nah. he's calling you out in a hypothetical. no harm done.

    • "By definition you are not qualified to determine if your "perception" is correctly applied."


      Which definition would that be? You cannot say I have misapplied my perception because it is inimitable and immutable to me and I have applied it correctly as far as my requirements are concerned. I do not need nor want your permission to do so. You are a vain and unyielding binary thinker. You think you can control what is beyond your reach but it is fantasy.


      "I, on the other hand, knowing "my logic" first hand am the final arbitor on this issue."


      You say that you are the final arbitor on the issue but you are wrong. Your responsibility for perception ends once the words are written or the behavior is complete. After that it is in the hands of those who are able to percieve your words or actions. You cannot tell anyone what they percieve or how to interpret their own perceptions. You are not god although you may imagine so at times.

      Again, just to be quite clear; your twisted and utterly binary logic serves you and only you and only when it suites the particular argument. I know your logic, I've seen it up close and personal, so to speak, and it is as flawed as you are.

    • the_fat_lady_is_warming_up the_fat_lady_is_warming_up Dec 6, 2004 12:51 PM Flag

      >>>What is your perception of the discussion then?<<<

      a variety of things, including, but not limited to:

      - that industry trends like foss or even pc's don't happen in a vaccuum, and need to be understood within that larger picture.
      - that they happen for reasons and behave in certain ways within that context, not within the context of business models threatened by them
      - that they can't be debated or wished away in favor of an obsolete business model any more than the pc and wordprocessor could be argued away by the likes of smith-corona
      - that given that, companies engaging in those obsoleted business models need to adapt, not fight the trend - everybody else is working on that. why not msft? that alone tends to indicate they may be a bad investment going forward
      - that jeff's right - you don't see the forest for the trees

      there's more to it, of course. but that's a start.

    • i've never claimed everything must be open source. tho apparently it is possible to make money with oss - rhat illustrates that. but not every business is obligated to do that.

      i do claim that open source will tend to commoditize infrastructure, and that the line separating what is considered infrastructure and what is not will continue to move upwards. that's only natural.

      wanna be an isv? you need to be ahead of that line, and stay ahead of it. the days of the huge entitlement for reselling something you produced a long time ago that has effectively zero production cost after that are coming to an end.

      msft's business model, if you can call it that, wants to forever make tons of money on its past glories. the market will see that as a dysfunction and route around it. that's in progress now.

      companies like msft need to come up with some new glories to cash in on and continue those sizable revenue streams. that is also as it should be.

    • <Somebody stated he would argue that the sky is not blue. He did. Needless to say, he lost.>

      Yes I caught a bit of his "junk science" as I recall wrt coloration.

      I wonder if he thinks himself clever?

    • <<Now that is funny! >>

      Sad actually. He doesn't even know what a FACT is... No doubt that colors his perception..

    • <lol - it bored me enough to stop reading hours ago, but i know you well enough to understand that you declaring victory means less than nothing.>

      As always, it's not what you don't know (itself considerable) but what you know for sure that's just ain't so.

      <that's just your paramoia - i'm very often not here.>

      Right - you're here all the fucking time. What's amusing is your trying to pretend that you aren't. Hint: when people have pet names for you like "fatty" is pretty much blows your "I'm very often not here".

      <after all, it'd be hard for you to be more asleep.>

      And it would be hard for your posts to have any less value or your opinion to concern me any less. Nite nite obese one.

    • "Quite clearly explained in the thread last night, no point in repeating, 'paidpoorly."



      Who?

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