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  • vlad.nabokov vlad.nabokov Sep 2, 2009 10:04 AM Flag

    Fact Check: Obama Health Care Funds Abortions

     

    Will health care legislation mean "government funding of abortion"?

    President Obama said Wednesday that’s "not true" and among several "fabrications" being spread by "people who are bearing false witness." But abortion foes say it’s the president who’s making a false claim. "President Obama today brazenly misrepresented the abortion-related component" of health care legislation, said Douglas Johnson, legislative director for the National Right to Life Committee. So which side is right?

    The truth is that bills now before Congress don’t require federal money to be used for supporting abortion coverage. So the president is right to that limited extent. But it’s equally true that House and Senate legislation would allow a new "public" insurance plan to cover abortions, despite language added to the House bill that technically forbids using public funds to pay for them. Obama has said in the past that "reproductive services" would be covered by his public plan, so it’s likely that any new federal insurance plan would cover abortion unless Congress expressly prohibits that. Low- and moderate-income persons who would choose the "public plan" would qualify for federal subsidies to purchase it. Private plans that cover abortion also could be purchased with the help of federal subsidies. Therefore, we judge that the president goes too far when he calls the statements that government would be funding abortions "fabrications".

    Obama is a lying scumbag.

    http://www.factcheck.org/2009/08/abortion-which-side-is-fabricating/

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    • It's just as much mine as it is yours except the difference is I believe in what it stands for, not what you are trying to "CHANGE" it to.

      You can have gay marriage rights, just respect most of America believing it is a biblical union, and if you want to change it to fit your agenda you need to call it something else. We are EQUAL in our recognition rights, but different in our ways of doing things. I can respect you, why can't you respect me?

      I think health care for everyone is great. The idea of it anyway. But the goverment has demonstrated it can't do anything correctly. It couldn't run a whore house and serve whiskey and turn a profit.

      If they want to help, why don't they give people with a job a voucher. Then only 6% of americans don't have healthcare.

      How come people on welfare dont have to take a piss test? I have to take a piss test to make money to give to them!

      If your disabled I understand, if your not, I say you don't get jack squat unless you try to help yourself.

      I'd rather pay you to go to school than pay you to sit on your ass.

      The problem here is not either party, it's lack of solutions that make any sense.

      Fundamentally I think everyone agrees people should be able to get help if they are sick. Republican, democrat, religious, atheist, whatever.

      Where the argument is though is alot of people dont want a government run program that ends up looking like a monkey F'n a football or a retard tryin to hump a doorknob at the expense of my money, that I WORK for.

    • Even while she was being beaten to death, 2-year-old Riley Ann Sawyers tried to stop the abuse by reaching out to her mother and saying, "I love you," according to opening statements in the murder trial of her 20-year-old mother. District attorney Kayla Allen told jurors that the toddler's desperate pleas did not stop the abuse, which eventually led to her death.


      Last updated at 09:43am on 21st March 2007 A foster mother was found guilty today of subjecting three young children to a "horrifying catalogue of cruel and sadistic treatment".
      Eunice Spry, 62, routinely beat, abused and starved the youngsters in her care over a 19 year period. The devout Jehovah's Witness forced sticks down their throats and made them eat their own vomit and rat excrement


      The grisly tale of a 6-year-old San Jose boy allegedly beaten to death in February by his mother’s boyfriend was delivered at a somber news conference this afternoon in San Jose.



      Is there any way you pro life folks could muster a little help, and sympathy for these poor kids who are tortured and brutalized everyday. Why don't you march for more oversight of people like these, how about advocating for more daycare centers.

    • christians don't educate, they hate or they destroy.

    • "...however, atheism provides no standards ... everything is permitted, nothing is forbidden...."

      Your statement, based on contradictory statement you made just before it is either A) false or B) both of your statements are false.

      Although Christianity promots behavior that leads to avoidance of unwanted pregnancies, they appear to be doing a piss poor job of it if abortion, in their view, is still such a big problem. It is not strictly a "religious" thing, it is an individual responsibility issue, that includes an individual's responsibility to themself, their partner (or not, as the case may be), their family, religious faith (if any, or not as the case may be).

      Instead of demonizing people that get abortions (or that perform them), how about working on individual responsibility issues, seems like you are falling down in that area as far as educating people.

    • we dont know whats true or not let the prez. do his job but im against abortions

    • Uh, no, I am an Athiest, I do not follow nor do I believe in "God" or "gods", definition of Atheism:

      Atheism can be either the rejection of theism (belief in one god) or the position that deities do not exist. In the broadest sense, it is the absence of belief in the existence of deities.

    • Here is another great organization that address Priests and the Catholic Church.

      http://www.snapnetwork.org/

    • True.

    • that's redundant

    • The South Shore is especially good for fundamentalist religion.

      "God made Adam and Eve! Not Adam and Steve!" cries one South Shore Preacher.

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