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  • hawcraper hawcraper Nov 9, 2012 11:24 AM Flag

    ObamaCare Is Here......


    Even the government's top-ranking Republican, House Speaker John Boehner of Ohio, said Thursday that "Obamacare is the law of the land."

    "Instead of being dismantled by a Republican president and Congress, Obama's law is now on track to take its place alongside Medicare and Medicaid. The action starts right away."

    "Open enrollment for exchange plans is scheduled to start Oct. 1, 2013, and coverage will be effective Jan. 1, 2014."

    My Governor has to go....
    "Some, like Rick Perry of Texas and Rick Scott of Florida, have drawn a line against helping carry out Obama's law."

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    • All fed & state - school - politicans - everybody is going to have the same insurance, same retirement all will share alike.

    • Numerous large lay-offs have already been announced as a result, at companies large and small. Irrefutable fact.

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      • "Irrefutable fact."

        Is it really, ghos?


        The exaggerated Republican claim that the new health care law “kills jobs” was high on our list of the “Whoppers of 2011.” But the facts haven’t stopped Republicans and their allies from making the “job-killing” claim a major theme of their campaign 2012 TV ads:

        Five ads by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce attack Democrats by repeating the “Obamacare will kill jobs” refrain.
        Seven other Chamber spots praise Republicans, using the same theme.
        An ad from the group Freedom Path, supporting Utah Sen. Orrin Hatch, says the law is “devastating to small business.”
        Republican Rep. Jo Bonner of Alabama features a large stack of papers he claims are “job-killing regulations and taxes” in one of his spots.

        All of this is health-care hooey, aimed at exploiting public concern over continuing high unemployment, with little basis in fact.

        As we’ve said before (a few times), experts project that the law will cause a small loss of low-wage jobs — and also some gains in better-paid jobs in the health care and insurance industries.

        It’s also expected that more workers will decide to retire earlier, or work fewer hours, when they no longer need employer-sponsored insurance and can obtain it on their own with help from federal subsidies. But that just means fewer people willing to work — and it will free up jobs for those who want them. If anything, that could reduce the jobless rate.

        Claims about the alleged devastation of small business are also off base. The fact is, businesses with fewer than 50 workers are exempt from the requirement to provide coverage, or pay a penalty to the government. Furthermore, some small businesses with fewer than 25 employees are already getting tax credits under the new law to help defray the cost of providing worker coverage.

        The GOP ads tend to combine the mostly bogus “job-killing” claim with their well-worn slogan calling the law a “government takeover” of health care, which isn’t true. The law expands the government’s Medicaid system to cover some who are not currently insured, but it also greatly expands private insurance. After the law takes effect, the government’s share of all spending on health care will still remain well under half, rising less than 4 percentage points, according to official projections.

        Read on to our Analysis for more on the law’s projected impact on jobs."

        To "read on", search: "GOP’s ‘Job-Killing’ Whopper, Again"

        FactCheck will spell it out for you.

        Sentiment: Strong Sell

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