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    • My Mama use to say, "Clean up your own room, Forest, before tell somebody to clean up their own!"

      Now it seems to me GW Bush is trying to clean up Iraq, before he cleans up his own messes.

      What I mean to say is that we need an "Energy Independence" plan based on investing in and exploiting alternative energy sources, before we go off and fight an Oil War in Iraq. If we had a plan maybe we can tell those folks they can take their oil an shove it, and not one American would die for "BIG OIL".

      It seems, however, that US "BIG OIL" interests has every Republican and Democrat in their pocket. That's why we are going to send our young men and women into battle to once again secure the interests of "BIG OIL".

      Its ironic, you know, just think of all the billions of dollars that will be spent on bombing Iraq, when it could be spent on developing wind power, solar energy, hydrogen fuel cells, and more fuel efficent vehicles.

      But you see "BIG OIL" doesn't want that, because they can't control the wind, the sun, hydrogen production, or CAFE standards as easily as they can our "elected" officials.

      Mama use to say, "Oil is like any other illegal drug. The addicts are you and I, the pushers are "Big Oil", and the government can't do a damn thing about either because they're all being paid off."

      Think about that the next time you fill up at the gas station and the young American who will die for the greasy, slimy, interests of "BIG OIL".

      "Its about energy, stupid! Energy has always been the basis for any economy, stupid!"

    • """"becuase Regan wanted them to fight Iran and gave them WMD to do it.""""

      first of all neither donald regan or the
      president sent any wmd to iraq. this is
      fiction from the left. you obviously are
      either too young to remember or too politacally bias to state the truth. i do
      agree with your last sentence however. aside
      from terrorism we have no battle with the
      middle east. the solution is to become
      energy efficient through conservation and
      exploration here at home. there is more than
      enough oil in our country to make up for the
      losses in the arab world. additionally our
      economy could benefit greatly by technological
      advances in these areas. in time all the oil
      from the middle east will be going to china
      anyway so why not get started now in the
      developement of more efficient vehicles and
      heating systems? as for irag all they need
      is a little more democracy and a little more
      capitalism and the people will prosper. bagdad
      used to be a thriving city before the dictator. but what do i

      • 1 Reply to mrwright192234
      • U.S. aided Iraq despite gas warfare
        Military officials say they knew of chemical weapons use even as covert program gave advice to defeat Iran

        By PATRICK E. TYLER, New York Times
        First published: Sunday, August 18, 2002

        WASHINGTON -- A covert U.S. program during the Reagan administration provided Iraq with critical battle-planning assistance at a time when U.S. intelligence agencies knew that Iraqi commanders would employ chemical weapons in waging the decisive battles of the Iran-Iraq war, according to senior military officers with direct knowledge of the program.

        These officers, most of whom agreed to speak on the condition that they not be named, spoke in response to a reporter's questions about the nature of gas warfare on both sides of the conflict between Iran and Iraq from 1981 to 1988. Iraq's use of gas in that conflict is repeatedly cited by President Bush, and, last week, was cited by his national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice, as justification for "regime change" in Iraq.

        The covert program was carried out at a time when President Ronald Reagan's senior aides, including Secretary of State George Shultz, Defense Secretary Frank Carlucci and Gen. Colin L. Powell, then national security adviser and now secretary of state, all were publicly condemning Iraq for its use of poison gas, especially after Iraqi forces attacked Kurdish civilians in Halabja in March 1988.

        During the Iran-Iraq war, the United States decided it was imperative that Iran be thwarted so it could not overrun the important oil-producing states in the Persian Gulf. It has long been known that the United States provided intelligence assistance to Iraq in the form of satellite photography to help the Iraqis understand how Iranian forces were deployed against them. But the full nature of the program, as described by former Defense Intelligence Agency officers, was not previously disclosed.

        Powell, through a spokesman, said the officers' description of the program was "dead wrong," but declined to discuss it. His deputy, Richard L. Armitage, who was a senior defense official at the time, used an expletive relayed through a spokesman to indicate his denial that the United States acquiesced in the use of chemical weapons.

        The DIA declined to comment, as did retired Lt. Gen. Leonard Peroots, who supervised the program as the head of the agency. Carlucci said, "My understanding is that what was provided" to Iraq "was general order of battle information, not operational intelligence."

        "I certainly have no knowledge of U.S. participation in preparing battle and strike packages," he said, "and doubt strongly that that occurred."

        Later, he added, "I did agree that Iraq should not lose the war, but I certainly had no foreknowledge of their use of chemical weapons."

        Though senior officials of the Reagan administration publicly condemned Iraq's employment of mustard gas, sarin, VX and other poisonous agents, the U.S. military officers said that Reagan, Vice President George Bush and senior national security aides never withdrew their support for the highly classified program in which more than 60 officers of the DIA were secretly providing detailed information on Iranian deployments, tactical planning for battles, plans for airstrikes and bomb-damage assessments for the Iraqi general staff. The Iraqis shared their battle plans with the Americans, without admitting the use of chemical weapons, the military officers said. But the Iraqi use of chemical weapons, already established at that point, became more evident in the final phase of the war.

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