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  • glsp57 glsp57 Feb 19, 2003 5:07 PM Flag

    Looks like buy the rumor...sell

    the news....CC should shed a little light on why next quarter is being reduced????

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    • Thanks for proving my point. You also must then agree with the B.S. Earnings PR load with EBG earnings factoids. That's all they could talk about! GAAP ssemed to paint a less optomistic view.

      Get a clue.

    • I actually agree with you that EBITDA valuations are bullshit, but if you knew anything at all you would know that they are used to value telecom service providers and other companies with large fixed costs, not software companies like SNPS. And since we were talking about SNPS, it seems you pulled this EDITDA stuff out of your ass so that you wouldn't seem like too much of an idiot.

      Didn't work.

    • Hey numbnuts,

      Still feeling smug and smart today?

    • I think that you have to evaluate what was in the stock - look at CDN, its rival. There, EPS were projected to be .88 in December and are now .48. That was the fear - there should be relief that it wasn't taken down to that extent. SNPS is a better company, has higher quality EPS and its PE should be significantly higher than that of CDN. CDN trades at 13X calendar 2004, SNPS trades at a lower PE for its FY04. Further, SNPS P/S is at the low-end of its range over the past 11 years despite the fact that much of the revenues have been converted to subscription and that the industry is depressed. My target on this guy is about a 50% gain over the next 12 months.

    • Looking forward, Synopsys said it expects to earn 67 cents a share to 72 cents a share before goodwill on revenue of $275 million to $289 million in the current, second quarter, versus analyst expectations of 73 cents a share.

      For all of fiscal 2003, Synopsys said in a statement it expects earnings per share before good will of $2.95 to $3.10 on revenue of $1.13 billion to $1.18 billion. Analysts expect Synopsys to earn $3.21 a share before goodwill for the entire fiscal year 2003

    • The first sentence of my last post should have read 'no impact to the income statement..........'.

    • Sorry to bust your bubble Majorius, but when you make an acquisition whether it be with cash or stock their is impact to the income statement because the cost is 'amortized' over a long period of time. So, you either 'recognize' the amortization every quarter OR you take a MASSIVE hit to the income statement in the quarter in which the acquisition occurs. Pick one or the other, else you are ignoring the 'cost' of captal, and sorry but it's not free.

      Btw, my earlier reference to depreciation was in regards to the standard EBITDA model that you pinheads seem to love. Yeah, let's ignore, Interest expense, depreciation, and Amortization and tell everyone how well we're doing because capital is FREE!

      You're a joke.

    • They did guide down Dec 4. Soundview cut their rating and estimates. 5-Dec-02 Soundview Technology downgrade: from Neutral
      to Underperform


      Another stock receiving a similar treatment [being punished] in the after hours session is Synopsys (SNPS 38.90 -0.85). The supplier of electronic design automation (EDA) software topped consensus EPS and revenue estimates in its Q1 (Jan) report, but warned for both Q2 (Apr) and FY03 (Oct) earnings before goodwill (EBG). SNPS now expects Q2 EPG between $0.67 and $0.72 (Multex estimate of $0.72) and FY03 between $2.95 and $3.10 (Multex estimate of $3.21). Competitors include the likes of CDN, LAVA, and MENT.

    • no, it's very quite, less than 100K change hands. so wierd. the whole day's volumn is also at the light side, different as previous earning releases. what's going on?

    • now you're on ignore for being such a dumbass long. Keep putting up whatever stats you want..the REALITY is that the stock is bid down hard afterhours and will most likely continue into options with that reality while you're talking to yourself

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