RIMM has not had a new product in years! For the last two years AAPLs gain was RIMMS loss...but you cannot draw that conclusion in reverse based on RIMMs sales or today's AAPL report. If there is competition for AAPL it's Samsung not RIMM as of today. That is not to say that RIMM can't be a comeback story if BB10 is a hit. But it is a deep hole they are attempting to climb out of.