Cleared things up? You never stated why you were so angry nor did you answer whether you'd care to post what you considered a reasonable valuation of KKD and reasons why. Just another angry tirade. How about the future of KKD? To da' moon or back to 2? I'd like to understand how they will grow earnings with constricting debt covenants. If KKSF loan guarantees are called they'll have to buy another waiver from the bank syndicate.