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  • marble_man03 marble_man03 Mar 29, 2006 4:14 PM Flag

    Conspiracy

    The collapse of the WTC towers, the Pentagon missile, the shootdown of flight 93, and many other conspiracy theories are about speculation and, some cases, distraction. But the basic facts are clear.

    On 9/11/01 and in the days before the attack decisions were made by people at the highest levels of our goverment that enabled the plot to go forward. These people were complicit in a mass murder, and instead of being tried and convicted, many were promoted and rewarded.

    This is the great crime of 9/11, and has nothing to do with conspiracy theories.

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    • tradermule_by_the_pool tradermule_by_the_pool Mar 30, 2006 12:01 PM Flag

      At one point during the summer of 2001, according to KSM�s interrogation summary, bin Laden himself, in a speech to trainees at an Al Qaeda camp in Afghanistan, asked his audience to �pray for the success of a major operation involving 20 martyrs.� According to the documents, KSM himself and another top bin Laden aide, Mohammed Atef (later killed by U.S. forces in Afghanistan), became concerned about their leader�s �lack of discretion� and �urged bin Laden not to make additional comments about the plot.�


      Those documents would be???? Provided by CIA? Was the interrogation with just waterboarding or did they use drills? When did they catch KSM, anyway? Like the weekend before Mueller, Ridge and Ashcroft were to testify before Congress, right?

      ---
      Millions Raised for Qaeda in Brooklyn, U.S. Says


      Paul Hosefros/The New York Times
      Attorney General John Ashcroft, left, joined Tom Ridge, Homeland Security secretary, and Robert Mueller, F.B.I. director, at a hearing yesterday before the Senate Judiciary Committee. Mr. Ridge said millions of dollars were sent from the Al Farooq mosque in Brooklyn to al Qaeda.

      By ERIC LICHTBLAU with WILLIAM GLABERSON
      ...
      The charges, announced by Mr. Ashcroft in the midst of a Congressional hearing on fighting terrorism, served to deflect tough questioning from members of Congress who have been critical of his performance. While Democrats sought to challenge his record on civil liberties, border security and terrorism, Mr. Ashcroft pointed to the charges against the Yemenis and last weekend's apprehension of Khalid Shaikh Mohammed as evidence that "we are winning the war on terrorism."

      (New York Times 3/5/03)
      ---

      >was OBL on our payroll?

      Yep. I don't have copies of his pay stubs but I'm fairly certain of it.


      >In all of this I used to think that OBL MAY have just agreed with Bush that he did it (WTC) for propaganda purposes but this pretty much nullifies that.

      This meaning a government document alleged to be a summary of torture sessions with a man who has been vanished after being captured in a story with numerous conflicting accounts?

      If you can't trust that, what can you trust? ;)

    • "According to the documents, KSM himself and another top bin Laden aide, Mohammed Atef (later killed by U.S. forces in Afghanistan), became concerned about their leader�s �lack of discretion� and �urged bin Laden not to make additional comments about the plot.� "

      They didn't want to tip off Kenneth Williams.

    • http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12070868/site/newsweek/page/2/

      At one point during the summer of 2001, according to KSM�s interrogation summary, bin Laden himself, in a speech to trainees at an Al Qaeda camp in Afghanistan, asked his audience to �pray for the success of a major operation involving 20 martyrs.� According to the documents, KSM himself and another top bin Laden aide, Mohammed Atef (later killed by U.S. forces in Afghanistan), became concerned about their leader�s �lack of discretion� and �urged bin Laden not to make additional comments about the plot.�

      was OBL on our payroll?

      In all of this I used to think that OBL MAY have just agreed with Bush that he did it (WTC) for propaganda purposes but this pretty much nullifies that.

    • tradermule_by_the_pool tradermule_by_the_pool Mar 30, 2006 10:27 AM Flag

      I can't right now.... I have an uncontrolable urge to go buy a copy of "The Catcher in the Rye".

      The Vietnam War was fought over a bet that Howard Hughes lost to Aristotle Onassis.

    • ahhh you're too tough a cookie for me to crack...


      Where is Gamma we will let her interegate you!


      MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

      I'm not afraid torture!

    • tradermule_by_the_pool tradermule_by_the_pool Mar 30, 2006 10:04 AM Flag

      Ummm.... maybe.

    • * (Or, maybe that's just what I WANT you to think! )*

      DAMN!!! the 21st HIJACKER!! I KNEW MY THEORY WAS CORRECT!!!!



      *Disclaimer: I do not now and have never owned a white van. *


      have you ever rented or stolen one? Changed the oil in one? Or perhaps on that street corner you occupy you have cleaned the windshield of one!? :)

    • I think I read somewhere the other day that 'they' are going to set off a nuke in Texas City on some specific day in April. I can't remember now where I read it or exactly who 'they' were (big oil Zionists, I guess).

      Found it.... it's on Easter.

      http://www.rense.com/general70/nuketx.htm

      And I not long ago moved from just outside DC to just outside Houston. Man, I just can't catch a friggin' break, can I? (Or, maybe that's just what I WANT you to think! )

      Disclaimer: I do not now and have never owned a white van.

    • He can't carry a tune in a bucket.

    • "I don't know who had NORAD and NEADS stand down..."


      "The size of the lie is a definite factor in causing it to be believed, for the vast masses of a nation are in the depths of their hearts more easily deceived than they are consciously and intentionally bad. The primitive simplicity of their minds renders them a more easy prey to a big lie than a small one, for they themselves often tell little lies, but would be ashamed to tell big lies.
      -- "Geublers", Minister for Adolf Hitler"

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