Moves necessary to survive right now IMO. As nearly as we can tell these cost cuts, if actually done, will get us back to about 1999 cost levels, probably still too high. But, if they do get costs down, perhaps they can at least be decently profitable in 2004. With the price decreases they are seeing, it will be tough, but doable with some tough, no nonsense top management control. Jamie knows how, Wendell is clueless IMO. We shall see.