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  • oceanfront4me oceanfront4me Apr 3, 2010 11:40 PM Flag

    Wimax vs LTE-put Debate to REST already

    By Jartrudel...

    Re: Sprint's CDMA & WiMax Dying Technologies

    3-Apr-10 04:21 pm

    Technically both LTE and WiMax are souped up 3G technology. 4G is a convenient label used to separate them. Neither one performs anywhere near lab standards when they're loaded down with subscribers. The defining parameter for 4G is supposed to be 100 mps minimum. LTE is even derived from the 3GPP, the 3g Partnership Project.

    WiMax 2 and LTE Advanced may be true 4G technologies but is it really important when current backhaul and IP can't come close to matching their delivery speeds? So many other things are far more important, like latency, shuttering, beam patterns, persistence, antenna separation, snr, and the frequencies they operate on.

    LTE started as a GSM switching tech originating with the telcos and moved to packet based, while WiMax started with broadband. They've both moved toward each other. Is LTE better? I believe it may be slightly better because it employs dual channels, and silver's a better conductor than copper but you won't find it being used much because the cost is just too prohibitive. LTE has a lot to prove while WiMax has been running successfully in the field for more than a year. They both have a lot to offer and it's likely some day both will be replaced by something better.

    Tell it to Tarn...:<)

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    • By Jartrudel...

      Re: Sprint long

      28 minutes ago

      That said, I love Sprint's position going into the biggest technological upheaval since the advent of the internet. Sprint holds around forty to fifty billion dollars of spectrum based on Verizon's recent 20 billion dollar purchase of a much lesser chunk; at least that's my understanding.

      Its wonderful to be an investor in Sprint right now. They have a cap of 11 billion, cash of 4 billion, and debt of 21 billion. As a major player in the industry, they're much healthier than AT&T or Vz when you consider their current position and real assets. They swapped/traded/gave up some spectrum with Clearwire in exchange for 51+ per cent of Clearwire stock so when you buy Sprint its a twofer deal. What the exact terms were I haven't researched yet. They could easily triple their subscriber base this year given their current multi-pronged strategy of wholesaling out through branded local networks, and that should change things in a hurry.

      Apparently AT&T is hurting for spectrum, and its a terrible position to be in going into the age. Data will be king and spectrum his queen. OTT Television is migrating to the mobile internet and will offer thousands of on-demand channels from all over the world HDMI'd to your high def 3D television set or streamed to your 3D smartphone. Video conferencing, m2m datastreaming, e-books, e-readers, e-newspapers, network controlled off-peak metering, virtual doctor house calls, property tracking, people tracking, computer in a car (did you see the video on CNET of the Intel guy driving around Baltimore while surfing the internet on his laptop?). Every 4 years we get a new favorite buzzword. The last four years it was "disingenuous." For the next four years the word you'll be hearing is "ubiquitous." Information overload? What a gross understatement.

      I also disagree that WiMax is a dying technology. It hasn't even seen the Spring yet; and I disagree with your dismissal of a buyout. With 90% of the stock held by hedge funds and institutions, their loyalties are non-existent, and a hostile takeover attempt using cash and stock by any one of dozens of companies is very likely in the near future.

      Tell it To Tarn...:<)

    • >>Tell it to Tarn...:<)

      Jatrudel's post was so without a clue I didn't even bother.

      >>Technically both LTE and WiMax are souped up 3G technology.

      WiMAX is not souped up 3G.

      WiMAX, IEEE 802.16, evolved from WiFi, IEEE 802.11.

      IEEE stands for Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers.

      WiMAX's goal was to provide last mile wireless broadband access as an alternative to cable and DSL.

      LTE, however, is a direct development of cellular telephony.

      The standard was set by the 3rd Generation Partnership Project, 3GPP, of which the European Telecommunications Standard Institute is a member and owns the trademarked name LTE.

      Cellco's the world over, and ALL the majors in the US except Sprint, are moving on to LTE as the common development standard.

      It is also endorsed by public safety agencies in the US as the preferred technology for the new 700 MHz public safety radio band (Wiki,

      Given the above, only members of the Sprint/WiMAX pumptards coalition still think that there will be a WiMAX 2 to compete with LTE Advanced in cellular telephony.

      The heading of this thread is correct.

      You can put the argument to rest.

      It's OVER for WiMAX.

      Sprint will need to wind down WiMAX when LTE comes on line.

      Don't know what the financial impact of that will be.

      But it will be MATERIAL.

      Get a clue!


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