Reagan speech over some exceptional footage... remember when we had REAL hope and change...?
'...What I did say was, “Have you heard the words, “I think, therefore I am”? Those words are extracted from Descartes’ proof for the existence of God.”...'
EXACTLY! Yes!!! AND, we were talking about PROOF of GOD!!!
And, AGAIN, I REPEAT!!! Those words were used by Descartes as a proof/confirmation for his own existence ( HINT: Read what the words say! COGITO, ERGO SUM - I THINK, THEREFORE I AM. ) and, they were not used to prove God's existence! WHAT DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND? Descartes proof of God is a sequence of elaborate and sophisticated statements!
"...You say one thing, then you say something else, then you ignore evidence..."
???? You really are delusional.
As far as all your name callings and, feeble attempts at insults, GROW UP!
BTW, you have exposed much of your character ( lack off ) on this MB. Don't you have any shame?
Also, don't you think you deserve to be sent to hell for all your malicious behaviour? You are disingenuous and a hypocrite and then some....
Ohhh...yes.., didn't you say there is no point in talking to me? You are a bit wishy washy...
>>> "...So, if Descartes proof for the existence of God wasn't about proving God exists, but rather, as you claim, proving that he existed, what was the point?..."
>>> I made no such claim! You are now adding to your lies! No one disputes that Descartes was trying to prove the existence of God. Don't put words in my mouth! You are continuing to squirm and slither and spin. We went over this numerous times yet, you persist on being in denial.
Excuse me, but you in fact did make the claim when you said, “Again, you are not only spinning but, you continue to babble nonsense. YOU CLEARLY CONFUSED HIS PROOF OF SELF EXISTENCE WITH THE PROOF OF GOD. You can spin all you want by trying to link them together but, you are just fooling yourself and nobody else who knows about the subject. The more you try to spin, the more foolish you look. COGITO, ERGO SUM, “I THINK, THEREFORE I AM.” DOES NOT PROVE THE EXISTENCE OF GOD – WHICH YOU CLAIMED!” – emphasis added. See http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/Business_%26_Finance/Investments/Stocks_%28A_to_Z%29/Stocks_A/threadview?bn=17627&tid=400419&mid=400933
You can’t have it both ways, dumba$$. You are now being held accountable for your words.
>>> You said, in effect, that "I think therefore I am" was Descartes proof of God's existence.
I never said that. What I did say was, “Have you heard the words, “I think, therefore I am”? Those words are extracted from Descartes’ proof for the existence of God.” See http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/Stocks_%28A_to_Z%29/Stocks_A/threadview?m=tm&bn=17627&tid=369587&mid=369797&tof=-1&rt=1&frt=2&off=1
>>> I'm getting tired of your BS, spin (now lies) and denials.
I’m getting particularly tired of your your BS, spin, lies, and denials. Not only that, but you are being a true a$$ about it. You say one thing, then you say something else, then you ignore evidence.
>>> Seems like you have serious problems of logic and denial and, I'm getting tired of repeating myself... like talking to a wall...
Ditto. Oh by the way. You grow up too, jerk.
"...So, once again, you are going to ignore the evidence I presented in my previous post and call me names..."
Ignore the evidence???? What is wrong with you? Your initial posts are the subject matter!!! Quit trying to cloud the issues by presenting new materials! You keep spinning but, you can't change the initial posts! Think!!!
"...there is just no point in talking to you..."
Well...praise the Lord! LOL
"...That is why people treat you like an idiot on this MB..."
Ahh...er...didn't you already say that just very recently??? Are you repeating the same message to convince yourself or others...or, you just enjoy throwing insults??? In any case, you just keep exposing more of your true self with every presentation of your silly posts. You are pathetic.
"...Go ahead, keep acting like an a$$ -- that's a role you can handle..."
???? I don't think I can catch up to you in that area. You earned the rights to be Number One!!! You're a NATURAL!!! LOL
So, once again, you are going to ignore the evidence I presented in my previous post and call me names.
You wonder why I don't answer? Now you know -- there is just no point in talking to you. That is why people treat you like an idiot on this MB...
You call me a pest? Isn't that what you were doing in the 'Charlie' thread and here in this thread?
Go ahead, keep acting like an a$$ -- that's a role you can handle.
"...You call me names, you say I’m silly, but it is you who are those things..."
So say your words but, your deeds say otherwise. You can't change the initial posts.
"...you'll finally figure out that it didn't pay to sleep through all those philosophy courses you claim to have attended..."
Talking about insults... you just have no self respect.
But, why do you keep babbling nonsense? You were shown that you didn't know what you were talking about in the initial posts. Show a little bit of character and accept your mistakes. Coming back and re-wording your spin or going off on a tangent will not change those initial posts. You're beginning to act like a pest.
You call me names, you say I’m silly, but it is you who are those things.
Descartes proof for the existence of God, along with a university professor’s explanation, is located at http://oregonstate.edu/instruct/phl302/philosophers/descartes-god.html
You should read it. Perhaps you'll finally figure out that it didn't pay to sleep through all those philosophy courses you claim to have attended...
"...Descartes proof for the existence of God does have a portion where Descartes talks about his own existence, then uses that to move toward proving God’s existence..."
Again, you are not only spinning but, you continue to babble nonsense. You clearly confused his proof of self existence with the proof of God. You can spin all you want by trying to link them together but, you are just fooling yourself and nobody else who knows about the subject. The more you try to spin, the more foolish you look. Cogito, ergo sum , "I think, therefore I am." does not prove the existence of God - WHICH YOU CLAIMED!
"...Descartes wasn’t attempting to prove his own existence – nobody was questioning that -- but that of the existence of God..."
WHAT!!??? Nobody was questioning that??? You are just showing your ignorance. You definitely missed some important philosophy courses.
"...Perhaps you should take a class and let a philosopher guide you through those proofs until you understand them – as I did when I learned them. Then you can apologize..."
You persist in being silly. I had many philosophy courses and find that you are very limited on the subject. But, that's OK. My dislike is not for your ignorance but, your attempt to spin out of your initial claim. I have no respect for those who do not respect themselves.
"...When you stop learning and growing, you become a dinosaur – we all know that dinosaurs are extinct. Is that what you wish to be?..."
No. I definitely don't want to wind up like you.
What's even worse...character weaklings like you who can't face their shortcomings and, turn towards dishonesty.
"...It was the same story with you and the proofs for the existence of God. You simply weren’t listening to anything I had to say..."
Why do you keep spinning? Just look at your initial claim months ago and, then see my response. You will find that it is you that is in denial.
"...Better yet, why don’t you quit responding to my posts? Put me on ignore if my posts bother you so badly. It just takes the click of a button..."
You are so predictable. You have nothing reasonable to say so you start grasping at straws. Look, if/when I decide to put someone on IGNORE, I won't need your assistance.
"...It just takes the click of a button..."
Really??? Ohhh...you are so brilliant! LOL
"...Ahhhh, here are the insults. Happy now?..."
I try to make appropriate statements. They have no bearing on my happiness.
"...From the tone of your reply, your feelings have been hurt..."
LOL Don't flatter yourself. I consider the source. I think a barking dog would have more affect on my feelings than a disingenuous spineless spinster.
"...Did you learn something? Anything?..."
Not much... but, you did confirm, again, that you are a phony... among other traits that I already mentioned...
..."And Buck_Ofama has exactly what to do with me?" Uh, think, now, Dale - I know that’s difficult for you - but wasn’t that my point, exactly? It had NOTHING to do with you, but you insisted on jumping in, and then accused ME of attacking you. And now you have the audacity to "warn" Razz this morning that he shouldn’t reply to your posts to others, at great risk – but it was fine for you to do so???? Suddenly, you’re the self-appointed board monitor?
When reminded that you consistently bail out whenever you’re asked to back up your nonsense, your response is to, once again - what else? - bail out. ("why should I answer"?) I’m beginning to think "lame duck" has nothing to do with politics, but refers to the lame non-answers you give to duck the questions asked in response to your persistent prevarications
So let’s try one you repeated this morning – we’re all well aware of the hideous pre-India trip propaganda about Michelle Obama visiting sex workers. When you did your usual cut and paste job of the Doug Powers story, posted by Michelle Malkin and others, I called you on it. Only folks like you, who for political expediency choose to confuse obliquity with profundity, would believe that type of rubbish...so, of course you didn’t respond then, and I’ll bet you won’t now.
Show us any verifiable evidence that the First Lady of the United States visited commercial sex workers during the trip. Apparently, you still believe it, because you’re still posting it. (While you’re doing research, you might post that long awaited data on Democrats paying no taxes, an answer to how [and why] you post thousands of political messages on this board virtually full time – would you like to see those numbers, again?, is winholder, or is he not, retired, did you really base the three F’s – feretz, faust & Floyd – on the grades of your report card – why you use British slang and spellings, - oh, look here on today’s post – whit for wit, and byte for bite - tsk, tsk, tsk, Dale, just when you were doing so well.) We’ll all await your answers – inquiring minds want to know. However, I’m sure folks are getting tired of this particular thread, so I’m done with it.
"You know, I served 20-years." Wow, you did? We had no idea. You only remind us several times a day.
"I don’t read them (AHQ’s) and haven’t for a while" – No kidding? But you then took three posts on Saturday morning and named everyone quoted? That’s remarkable. So, once again, you have proven yourself to be a liar and a fraud...or possibly, without reading them, you divined them ala Carnac the Magnificent. In which case, I’ll give you a quote from him:
"May a diseased yak squat in your hot tub.” – Johnny Carson as Carnac
"...When you get your dusty butt up....2 Bavarian cream donuts and a 16 oz. cup of Dunkin Donuts joe..."
I'm up!!! I already had potato pancakes...and, freshly brewed home coffee... I just love potato pancakes. :-)
Markets are down... Mela disappointed me... So far Melafind was found inadequate... about 50% down... one of two purely speculative stocks that I include in my portfolio. Barrons was also cautiously optimistic on it...
But, life is good! :-)
Have a good one!
>>> "...Excuse me, but you are clearly wrong on a number of counts here..."
>>> "...I recall the debate that you and I had over the proofs for and against the existence of God several months ago. You clearly didn’t know your stuff, and you didn’t want to hear the correct answers..."
>>> You are dishonest in making the above statements and, you definitely did not know what you are talking about. You got confused between proofs on God's existence and, the proofs for one's existence. You had all the chances to give the "correct answers" but, you didn't know them so, you tried BS but, got caught in your BS.
Interesting. Descartes proof for the existence of God does have a portion where Descartes talks about his own existence, then uses that to move toward proving God’s existence. But it’s obvious to me that you got confused in all of that and what Descartes was attempting to do. Descartes wasn’t attempting to prove his own existence – nobody was questioning that -- but that of the existence of God. The interesting part is that you call me dishonest, when it is YOU WHO ARE CLEARLY CONFUSED. Perhaps you should take a class and let a philosopher guide you through those proofs until you understand them – as I did when I learned them. Then you can apologize.
>>> "...Lastly, you are kind of treated as an idiot on this board..."
>>> At this stage of my life, my limitations are beyond my control.
When you stop learning and growing, you become a dinosaur – we all know that dinosaurs are extinct. Is that what you wish to be?
>>> You, on the other hand, are a cowardly wretch who can't face his shortcomings and errors and needs to go in denial when confronted by them. You are pathetic.
You know, at some point in time, it becomes totally and completely obvious that it is a total waste of time trying to debate someone – I reached that point yesterday with Spin Doctor Ricky over the record of Ronald Reagan. There isn’t anything that I can say or do that will convince Ricky that Reagan was a decent president – much better than the current one in office. It was the same story with you and the proofs for the existence of God. You simply weren’t listening to anything I had to say. So what is the point? You can call me a ‘cowardly wretch’ if you’d like – I certainly can’t stop you. Better yet, why don’t you quit responding to my posts? Put me on ignore if my posts bother you so badly. It just takes the click of a button.
>>> BTW, have you no shame being so obvious in your BS...or, do you also have that in denial?
Ahhhh, here are the insults. Happy now?
You put yourself into a fight where you didn’t have to go. From the tone of your reply, your feelings have been hurt. Did you learn something? Anything?