Man, I couldn't have said it any better. I've been doing this for years and have never seen anything like it. The bulls, which are more prevelant than you stated are betting on the come, which can last forever, while if you short you get killed. Doing research, or homework to short a stock and be right, only to get squeezed by a ceo's bs future hope is brutal. Being long and hoping is even more nerving but with the gov behind the whole move, in my opinion only, to build confidence is probally the right move but I just can't do it. This feels like a suckers rally, but I'm sure we will see 11k on the dow sooner than later. Its tough out there, and confusing to say the least, but I have to say I appreciate all the info here as it is probally the best board out there. I know I'm a newcomer but the info is welcome. Shorting has been brutal but to many stocks have gone up for no reason and that is a bad sign. I still think klic is a buy on pullbacks as the next few qrts. the spin will be positive, but the Mesiah's plan is not warranted here, and I can't commit to the over-all market. Onward thru the fog !!!