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  • vinnie_baggadonitz vinnie_baggadonitz Jan 9, 2013 10:36 AM Flag

    Tools, it doesn't matter how many Windows 8 "licenses," have been sold


    What matters is how many units ship.

    And, despite the fluffed up number of licenses sold, the adoption rate for Windows 8 is STILL LOWER than Vista. This is why you tools are losing money on this stock. You simply don't understand the market.

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    • MS is pumping the number of W8 licenses sold because in reality it the Metro interface has been disaster on desktops, laptops and devices without touch. Anyone that uses it quickly concludes W8 was designed for tablets and smartphones. Why MS insists on forcing it on devices ill-fit for it is a mystery.

      But MS's challenges, while coupled Intel's, are not driven by the same things. Intel already dominates servers, desktops, laptops and ultrabooks and not even W8's problems will change that. The areas where Intel needs greater marketshare, ie; tablets and smartphones are actually what W8 and Metro do well, plus Intel's chips run Android so Intel isn't totally dependent on MS anyway.

      If you're going to argue a point, at least do it thoroughly.

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      • Your points are valid. This was in response to someone bragging about Win 8 sales, when in fact the adoption rate is about the worst ever for Windows except maybe Win ME or Win 2K.

        Win 8 sales being poor reflects two things: the OS isn't selling and neither are INTC based mobile designs. Your point is that they could run with Android, well those aren't selling either.

        I don't understand why you want to change this discussion into a chess match. INTC is five years behind in mobile, that's what counts, and OEMs aren't suddenly going to cross the street to use INTC products when they have their production lines stuffed with products from ARM, QualComm, etc. The performance advantages are specious at best and there is no reference design. The end. No certified reference design, no tier 1 OEMs. period.

    • It doesn't matter how many Win8 shipped. The important number for Intel will be how many CPU did they ship and what mix. Why would someone buy Win8 over an installed version of Win7 or some other OS?

      There is only one reason that I can think of: touch input. Touch input really requires a new system. Few people will have the time or energy to install Win8 and then slog through V1.0 software bugs.

      There will be 380m PC shipped in 2012. A linear run rate would be 95m per quarter.
      60m Win8 shipped in Q4 which is 2/3 of that number.

      Win7 systems shipped = ???
      Win8 systems shipped = ???
      LInux systems shipped = ???
      bare-bones, no OS systems shipped = ??? (I bought one of these in Q3)
      MacOS systems shipped = ???

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