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TransMontaigne, Inc. (TMG) Message Board

  • rrb1981 rrb1981 Feb 1, 2005 5:07 PM Flag

    Multiple expansion

    With the current multiple expansion, or yield compression(whatever way you want to look at it), TMG's MLP value continues to become more and more valuable. If you remember, in some of my previous posts, I valued the MLP cashflow using a 7.15% yield, which equates to a 14x multiple. Well, the composite MLP yield continues to drop(meaning multiple expansion). The composite yield is now around 6%(which is a 16.6x multiple), with TMG peers such as VLI, KPP (soon to be VLI) and HEP with yields in the low 5% range, this means the multiples on crude terminals and pipelines has expanded to over 18x. This means that my conservative 14x multiple is probably a bit on the conservative side when high quality crude assets comparable to TMG's are fetching 18x multiples and higher. So, if we were to refine the analysis a bit on the multiples, and put a 17x(again keeping a margin of safety)multiple on the cashflow, well, I think one can clearly see that one could arrive at values that exceed $15/share net of debt. The key to all of this is execution of a successful float of the MLP. From the increased buying that we have been seeing, perhaps I am not the only one that see's the huge potential in the MLP.......

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    • You know there has been a lot of discussion regarding TMG becoming an MLP. Can you point to where TMG has announced their intention of becoming an MLP?

      Thanks! ...been going through your posts rrb and good job!

      • 2 Replies to DanceSwingJDE
      • DanceSwingJDE,

        Valero is trading with a multipe of over 19x distribution.

        Look at Hiland [HLND] (an MLP that went public on Thursday and popped 29%). The demand for MLP's remains very strong and TMG has a very attractive set of integrated terminals that provide solid, steady cashflow.

        If we assume that the distributable cash, which is essentially the cash that they can take out of the busines after maintenance capex is around $40 million and we put a multiple of 18x(which is less than what Valero is getting but then Valero has a history of performance)on that, then in theory, if they were to create the MLP with an intial distribution of $2.00, then they would have a total of 20 million units of the MLP. They are going to raise around 130 million from the crude oil "linefill" sales and if they IPO say 5.5 million units of the MLP, then they could raise another $200 million, which assuming the $330 million debt number is correct(and I think it is lower than that), that would give them enough cash to pay it completely off. That would leave TMG GP holding 14.5 million units(units=shares) of the MLP trading at $36.00 each(18x the $2.00 distribution). Thats a total of $520 million in hldings. Then throw in the fact that by paying off the debt, they free up the interest(which, essentially is then going to pay the distributions on the units sold in the IPO, which amounts to a zero gain/loss for TMG). TMG GP also has a few other holdings of assets that cannot be put into an MLP as well as the GP and collectively they are probably worth $1.00. So, when we crunch the numbers, it looks like we would have $520 million in value divided over 41 million TMG GP shares, which amounts to $12.70/share for TMG GP and then add the $1.00 worth of non-MLP assets for a total of almost $14.00. It would also mean that TMG was receiving 29 million from the 14.5 million TMG MLP units that it still retained. That cash could then be used to pay out an ordinary dividend at the GP level. So, my guess would be a dividend of .30(after tax and assuming they retain some).

      • try this link, it is off the company's website:

    • Same goes for Lehman Brothers. Their going to collect 9% while they wait than exercise at higher prices. Lehman owns most of the bonds. In the end Morgan and Lehman are out to make a buck. I'm following the smart money because they will make most of their profits on the shares exercised.

    • Morgan looked the books of TMG over very well before making an agree to supply TMG's product.If they thought for one minute that they would not make money on the stock side they would have wanted cash up front.