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  • john29joe john29joe Mar 2, 2013 4:29 PM Flag

    1 way to stop the"SHORTS from BORROWING" put a"GTC"order to sell at 100dollars then no shorts can get more go long"s...!!!

    this will stop shorts to get extra also less availble for naked shorts . pass it along if your long. GO LONGS..!!

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    • Wow, man, naked shorts? How can a pair of Jenny's shorts be naked, man? Why would anyone pay a woman 100 dollars for her shorts? Wow man, wanna buy my undershorts, man?

    • KEEP THIS LINK @THE TOP...Take delivery of your (HLF) shares or move to a "cash" ACCT. Some brokers will still lend your shares if ya dont!!!

      Ackman will see the "short of the century" first hand...POOOWWWW!!! Be a part of it!!!

      --Wyn

    • It's working real well, that's why there's plenty of shares to borrow. If that were to dry up, puts are available.

    • Wow man, have you been smokin' ? If ya want to sell ya put in a Market Order for all your shares, man.

    • if you have a margin account the broker can/will loan out your shares. But you can tell them not to by simply calling and asking them to put your HLF shares on "non-rehypothecation" status. Every long should do this now that Icahn is in full and coming for more shares (another 12% at least). Likely all the institutional long players have already done so or will tomorrow.

      Icahn's common stock buying can resume tomorrow now that his early option exercises reveal (SHOUT!) that he is no longer restrained by HSC parameters.

    • That's a wives' tale. Total B.S.

      In a margin account they can be lent out. Cash account - no hypothecation agreement signed that says bascailly "Since I want to borrow money from you to buy stock, I am willing to let my stock be lent out to use as collateral for the money.

    • You are incorrect. I checked with Fidelity Investments, and they said that any shares that are in a margin account are available for sthem to loan out. Some people claim that even if they are not in a margin account, there is no way to keep the brokerage from loaning out the shares, or to know if they are doing so. The only way to make sure that the shares are not loaned out is to hold the stock certicficates yourself, until you are ready to deposit them with youur broker.

      Sentiment: Buy

    • just keep your shares in a cash account and they can't be loaned out........

      • 1 Reply to stockingman53
      • This seems to be the case with a Schwab account. Section 11 of the Schwab One Brokerage Acccount agreement in its entirety is as follows (and there is no other reference to consenting to stock lending elsewhere in the agreement):
        "Section 11: Loan Consent. You agree that property held in your Margin Account, now or in the future, may be borrowed (either separately or together with the property of others) by us (acting as principal) or by others. You agree that Schwab may receive and retain certain benefits (including, but not limited to, interest on collateral posted for such loans) to which you will not be entitled. You acknowledge that, in certain circumstances, such borrowings could limit your ability to exercise voting rights or receive dividends, in whole or in part, with respect to the property lent. You understand that for property that is lent by Schwab, the dividends paid on such property will go to the borrower. No compensation or other reimburse- ments will be due to you in connection with such borrowings. However, if you are allocated a substitute payment in lieu of dividends, you understand that such a payment may not be entitled to the same tax treatment as may have been applied to the receipt of a dividend. You agree that Schwab is not required to compensate you for any differential tax treatment between dividends and payments in lieu of dividends. Schwab may allocate payments in lieu of dividends by any mechanism permitted by law, including by using a lottery allocation system."

        Because Schwab explicitly includes this provision that the account holder must agree to and because this is the only reference made to loan consent in the agreement, I would conclude that for Scwab cash only accounts, your stock cannot be loaned out. You just want to be certain that you specifically checked the box in the Schwab agreement that indicates the account is not to include margin (see Section 3, next post due to number of letters limitation on msg board.

        Sentiment: Buy

    • You are wrong.
      Many retail investors think by placing a Good Till Canceled order (GTC) they can prevent their shares from being lent. A quick survey of some brokers indicated this to be more of a myth than reality. While some brokers may act as such, most don't recognize an open order as prohibitive of lending shares.

    • thats great

      Sentiment: Strong Buy

      • 4 Replies to john29joe
      • less stock out there to short = equals stock rising faster as going up shorts cant borow if there not availble PUT YOUR "GTC" ORDER IN SELL AT 100 OR ABOVE ALSO CALL YOUR BROKER AND TELL THEM YOU DONT WANT YOUR SHARES TO BE BORROWED TAKE OUT OF MARGIN ACCOUNT AND PUT IN YOUR CASH ACCOUNT ANY ONE OF THESE WILL WORK PROTECT YOUR INVESTMENT, GO LONGS PASS IT ALONG..!!!

        Sentiment: Strong Buy

      • 3 ways to stop short fromborrowing your stock pick anyone of these to do it (1) good to cancel order in at 100 dollars or more 21/2 what the stock is trading (2) if your stock is trading in your margin account then move it to your cash side and also call them and tell them you do not want your shares to be borrowed it is that simple if your long protect your investment for me the "gtc" order is great also this what "carl icann" is doing .. Pass it along "go longs"...!!!

      • Scotrade ameritrade charles swabb etrade fidelty can not lend shares if you have a ""good to cancel order in at 100 or above at least 2 andone half more than what the stock is trading you can call them this is 100 truth the other poster is a liar because he is shorting ..."""pass it along if your long"" go longs

        Sentiment: Strong Buy

      • most traders are in brokerage accounts and the stock your long on can be shorted if the stock is registered in your name then you call wher your trading and tell them you do not want your shares to be borrowed that will stop them shorts out ther getting any more. EASY WAY JUST PUT A ORDER IN "" GOOD TO CANCEL"" GTC TO SELL AT 100 HUNDRED DOLLARS""THEN RETAIL BROKERS CAN"T LEND YOUR STOCK TO ANYONE.. THIS IS THE BEST WAY SO SHORTS CANT GET ANY MORE WHILE ICANN HELPS ALL THE LONGS...!!!

        Sentiment: Strong Buy

 
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