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  • falmouthharbor falmouthharbor Mar 2, 2013 12:40 PM Flag

    SPEEA leaders wave the white flag

    Posted: Mar 01, 2013 9:24 PM EST Updated: Mar 01, 2013 9:24 PM EST

    SEATTLE (AP) - The union representing Boeing's technical workers says it will make NO recommendation when it asks members to vote this month on the company's latest contract offer, which is identical to the offer that technical workers narrowly rejected Feb. 19.
    The Society of Professional Engineering Employees in Aerospace said Friday that ballots are scheduled for mailing by next Thursday and will be due by March 18.
    The union has said it's disappointing the offer does not provide pensions for new employees. They would have a 401(k) retirement plan instead.
    However, the union says accepting the company's last offer would lock in "considerable improvements" achieved since the company's initial offer.
    The 7,400 technical workers have already given their union strike authorization.
    The 15,500 engineers represented by the same union approved a 4-year Boeing contract in ballots tallied Feb. 19.
    The engineers and technical employees work on plans for new planes and solve problems that arise on the factory floor.

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    • SPEEA Leaders did
      not, I repeat did not,
      wave a white flag.
      They decided to do
      what is best for its
      union members in
      accepting a very generous
      union contract. They
      further decided not to go
      along with several extremists in
      the union that seek to
      for their mere self gratification
      causing as much damage
      to Boeing as possible. It is
      my opinion, for whatever it is
      worth, that Boeing will
      have the abliity to be more generous
      to new members by greater
      contributions to a 401K than
      having the burden of overhead
      costs in managing a complex
      pension plan system.

      • 2 Replies to phantomfield
      • Phantom..
        There is a lesson to be learned for the unions, for the states and for our country of the ongoing challenge for businesses located in non-right-to-work states. If our own government is willing to give a defense contract to a foreign-owned entity over multiple, capable U.S.-owned entities - including one that incumbently held the previous contract - because of pricing, other entities will be focused on pricing too. States that continue to prioritize union ideology over the need to be competitive may end up with no work at all.
        Case in point: the contract to replace the old issue M4 rifles with the newer M4A1 worth $77M. Colt and Remington bid but lost out to A Belgian government owned company, FN Herstal. Herstal will build the rifles in a non union facility in South Caroline. Colt was going to build them at their union plant in Connecticut and Remington was going to build them at in its union plant in Ilion, N.Y., facility.

      • It's time to realize that the world has changed big time over the last several years. There are still many people out of jobs and would love to have a job at Boeing with all their benefits. This is not the time to get greedy. Boeing is one of the last companies in America that makes a difference in the world!

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