While reading David Brooks column, I couldn't help but think of you, Angel & FiBs. Angel with your liberal view and FiBs with your Neo view. and before either of you assume I am casting aspersions, understand that I am not. I invite you both to read his column and see if you don't find much wisdom and common ground. Here I will share a few paragraphs:
" The red and blue maps that have been popping up in the papers again this week are certainly striking, but they conceal as much as they reveal. I've spent the past four years traveling to 36 states and writing millions of words trying to understand this values divide, and I can tell you there is no one explanation. It's ridiculous to say, as some liberals have this week, that we are perpetually refighting the Scopes trial, with the metro forces of enlightenment and reason arrayed against the retro forces of dogma and reaction.
In the first place, there is an immense diversity of opinion within regions, towns and families. Second, the values divide is a complex layering of conflicting views about faith, leadership, individualism, American exceptionalism, suburbia, Wal-Mart, decorum, economic opportunity, natural law, manliness, bourgeois virtues and a zillion other issues.
But the same insularity that caused many liberals to lose touch with the rest of the country now causes them to simplify, misunderstand and condescend to the people who voted for Bush. If you want to understand why Democrats keep losing elections, just listen to some coastal and university town liberals talk about how conformist and intolerant people in Red America are. It makes you wonder: why is it that people who are completely closed-minded talk endlessly about how open-minded they are?"
Not sure which show I was listening to when I heard the quote on the under age 30 vote. I suspect will be hearing and reading more as the voting is further distilled and analyzed. I'll be more than happy to share if I run across it again soon.
I am aware that many with liberal views when young become more conservative as they age. Not sure when I made the turn from liberal to progressive, but suspect it was in my early 20s. Don't believe I have ever been other than an Idepedent.
Also back on possibilities for 2008, I should add that I cont admire John McCain and would not be dissapointed if he was able to emerge as the Republican nominee. He will certainly be ancient years, however, and I fear the extreme right of your party will never really embrace him.
MAYBE...post your sources...sure ain't what MM said...altho i don't think she used numbers up to age 30??
>> as i said once before...i used to be a democrat BEFORE i grew up and became a republican..(flip flop).....i guess that number is about age 40 they switch parties...( i did it when nixon took over) ( dumb as i am...i loved kennedy and johnson)..most now hate johnson and everything TX...