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  • azalphainvestor azalphainvestor Dec 12, 2006 7:17 PM Flag

    Bush Slipping

    Majority say history won't be kind to Bush
    Updated 12/12/2006 3:52 PM ET

    Just 19% expect President Bush to be seen by history as being outstanding or above-average, less than any of his five most recent predecessors.

    By Susan Page, USA TODAY
    WASHINGTON � History's judgment of George W. Bush will be harsh, Americans predict.
    In a USA TODAY/Gallup Poll taken Friday through Sunday, a 54% majority says Bush will go down as a below-average or poor president, more than double the negative rating given any of his five most recent predecessors.

    Just 19% expect him to be seen as outstanding or above-average, placing him last among the six. Bush, re-elected in 2004, now trails three presidents who were rejected by voters when they sought second or full terms, including his father, George H.W. Bush.

    "The public sees this war in Iraq as a failure, and that's at the center of it," says Robert Dallek, a presidential biographer and author of Hail to the Chief: The Making and Unmaking of American Presidents.


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    • lots of conjectures in that article to build towards the prize... a partisan propaganda piece disguised as logical thinking.

    • Editorial
      Al Qaeda Resurgent

      Almost five and a half years ago, America � united by the shock of 9/11 � understood exactly what it needed to do. It had to find, thwart and take down the command structure of Al Qaeda, which was responsible for the deaths of 3,000 innocent people on American soil. Despite years of costly warfare in Afghanistan and Iraq, America today is not significantly closer to that essential goal.

      At a crucial moment, the Bush administration diverted America�s military strength, political attention and foreign aid dollars from a necessary, winnable war in Afghanistan to an unnecessary, and by now unwinnable, war in Iraq. Al Qaeda took full advantage of these blunders to survive and rebuild. Now it seems to be back in business.

      As our colleagues Mark Mazzetti and David Rohde reported last week, American intelligence and counterterrorism officials believe that Al Qaeda has rebuilt its notorious training camps, this time in Pakistan�s loosely governed tribal regions near the Afghan border. Camp graduates are fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq � and may well be plotting new terrorist strikes in the West.

      The same officials point to more frequent and more current videos as evidence that Al Qaeda�s top leaders, Osama bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahri � once on the run for their lives and unable to maintain timely communications with their followers � now feel more secure. Al Qaeda is not as strong as it was when its Taliban allies ruled Afghanistan. But, the officials warn, it is getting there.

      Al Qaeda�s comeback didn�t have to happen. And it must not be allowed to continue. The new Qaeda sanctuaries in Pakistan do not operate with the blessing of the Pakistani government. But Pakistan�s military dictator, Gen. Pervez Musharraf, has not tried very hard to drive them out. In recent months he has virtually conceded the tribal areas to local leaders sympathetic to Al Qaeda. President Bush needs to warn him that continued American backing depends on his doing more to rid his country of people being trained to kill Americans.


    • Dead Horse. Guess you dont have family or friends in Iraq if you think Rummy being gone is the end of it. Even in your newspapers, Im sure there are stories about the coninuing death and carnage in Iraq. And the daily cost cont to escalate even if it is only in FRNs. Not to mention that Osama remains at-large, the Taliban and al Qaeda are revitalized and Afghanistan has become problematic. Need I suggest who is still around and in charge of this mess.


    • because we don't live in AZ? here's an idea for you...why not bottle and sell AZ water?

      >>rummy's gone.... why keep beating a dead horse

    • Ahhh... But what is the reason that you and Canoodle still have a problem recognizing that Rummy & Co really botched the operation and that Iraq has become such a misadventure.


    • just saying you AZ guys seem to think alike....

    • Are you saying it is your water and Canoodle's water that is at fault for you not realizing what a failure Rummy & Co were and how badly the Iraq Adventure has turned. Hell look at the damn trend line.


    • must be something in the AZ water...

    • McCain: Rumsfeld Was One of the Worst

      The Associated Press
      Tuesday, February 20, 2007; 7:59 AM

      BLUFFTON, S.C. -- Republican presidential candidate John McCain said Monday the war in Iraq has been mismanaged for years and former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld will be remembered as one of the worst in history.

      "We are paying a very heavy price for the mismanagement _ that's the kindest word I can give you _ of Donald Rumsfeld, of this war," the Arizona senator told an overflow crowd of more than 800 at a retirement community near Hilton Head Island, S.C. "The price is very, very heavy and I regret it enormously."

      McCain, the ranking Republican on the Senate Armed Services Committee, complained that Rumsfeld never put enough troops on the ground to succeed in Iraq.

      "I think that Donald Rumsfeld will go down in history as one of the worst secretaries of defense in history," McCain said to applause.

      The comments were in sharp contrast to McCain's statement when Rumsfeld resigned in November, and failed to address the reality that President Bush is the commander in chief.


    • Poor poor whining Canoodle..
      No ole man, it is not occasionally that media reports on Kosovo/Bosnia as you would like others to believe. The story is followed regularly by a number of the media sources. It is just going unspectalurly and for the most part pretty well. It is nearly the polar opposite of Iraq.

      See NeoDonk, you and your F*d up in Iraq. And your favorite foil, President Clinton, got the job done in Kosovo. I know you Militarists despise Clinton and his diplomacy first and allies concensus approach, but facts are facts. Kosovo is unremarkable with few if any day to day political casualties adn Iraq is a bloody, expensive mess that has gone from good to F*ing near catastorphe.

      Suck it up Canoodle. I'll never expect you to man up to your errors, but Ill continue to call you out on them.


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