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  • dawnisbreaking dawnisbreaking Jan 11, 2009 9:19 PM Flag

    Maybe Not So Much Change After All(?)

    Hmmm, things haven't changed that much, wonder why this wasn't said during October. DiB

    Obama sees campaign promises fade
    Christina Bellantoni (Contact)
    Sunday, January 11, 2009

    President-elect Barack Obama said Americans will have to sacrifice to lift the nation from recession and acknowledged that some of his campaign promises may not be fulfilled because of what he described as a dire economic situation.

    In a wide-ranging interview on ABC's "This Week" that aired Sunday, Mr. Obama continued to sell his proposed economic stimulus package as "bold" and insisted Congress must pass it by mid-February.

    "Everybody is going to have to give. Everybody is going to have to have some skin in the game," Mr. Obama said about the package during the interview, taped Saturday in Washington.

    Mr. Obama also used a form of the word "tough" three times to describe prospects for the package, then conceded: "I want to be realistic here -- not everything that we talked about during the campaign are we going to be able to do on the pace that we had hoped."

    Mr. Obama lauded House Speaker Nancy Pelosi for saying recently she would keep Congress in session over the Presidents Day break if the package has not been passed by then. He also said that he was working closely with lawmakers to hammer out the details of the plan.

    "Congress exercises all sorts of prerogatives. They've got all sorts of procedures. Everybody wants to be heard," he said. "I'm respectful of that. . . . [O]ne of the things that we're trying to set a tone of is that, you know, Congress is a co-equal branch of government. We're not trying to jam anything down people's throats."

    He urged citizens to be patient with the sinking economy. "I think we can fix it," he said, "but it's going to take some time. It's not going to happen overnight."

    The president-elect said another campaign promise to shut down the federal detention center at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, may have to wait. He said it would be a challenge to close the facility, as he had promised, within the first 100 days of his administration.

    "We are going to get it done, but part of the challenge that you have is that you have got a bunch of folks that have been detained, many of whom may be very dangerous, who have not been put on trial or have not gone through some adjudication," he said.

    He said his legal and national security teams will try to create a fair legal process that "doesn't result in releasing people who are intent on blowing us up."

    "I don't want to be ambiguous about this," he said. "We are going to close Guantanamo, and we are going to make sure that the procedures we set up are ones that abide by our Constitution. That is not only the right thing to do, but it actually has to be part of our broader national security strategy, because we will send a message to the world that we are serious about our values.

    Mr. Obama said that, after two months of intelligence briefings, he recognizes the threat of a terrorist attack still looms.

    "I think that we have made progress in certain areas, but those dangers are still there. And those dangers are not going to immediately go away, because we're not talking about conventional armies where we have very clear measures of what their capacity is," he said. "You know, if you have a small group of people in today's world, with today's technology, who are intent on doing harm and are willing to die, that is something that's always going to be a challenge."


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    • More than 2.3 million American homeowners faced foreclosure proceedings last year, an 81 percent increase from 2007, with the worst yet to come as consumers grapple with layoffs, shrinking investment portfolios and falling home prices.

      Nationwide, more than 860,000 properties were actually repossessed by lenders, more than double the 2007 level, according to RealtyTrac, a foreclosure listing firm based in Irvine, Calif., which compiled the figures.

      Moody's, a research firm, predicts the number of homes lost to foreclosure is likely to rise by another 18 percent this year before tapering off slightly through 2011.

    • Lest we forget what fools and mouthpieces, Fibs and Canoodle are for the NeoCons that rewarded loyalty over expertise and now are sniping at the President to be, Obama, harken back to smarts of Pres Clinton's top General, Eric Shinseki:

      <General Shinseki told his confirmation hearing to be head of the Department of Veterans Affairs how he will be dealing with some of the costliest aftermath of a war that he famously predicted, just before the curtain fell on his first act, would bog down hundreds of thousands of troops for years. With the invasion of Iraq looming, his Pentagon bosses rebuked him for saying that, and he retired a few months later as Army Chief of Staff.


      When he retired in June 2003 after 38 years as a soldier, General Shinseki was the highest-ranking Asian-American in United States military history. He received two Purple Hearts for life-threatening injuries in Vietnam, one in which he lost so much of his foot that the Army wanted to discharge him.

      While he rose through the ranks as a commander of armored units during the cold war era, he was the Army’s expert on peacekeeping operations, leading the first forces that imposed an armistice in Bosnia.

      Associates say it was that experience pacifying a bloody Balkan battlefield that led him to electrify Washington less than a month before the invasion of Iraq in 2003, when he issued a blunt warning during a Senate hearing that securing Iraq would require more troops than were being deployed for the invasion.

      ”Something on the order of several hundred thousand soldiers are probably, you know, a figure that would be required” to stabilize Iraq after an invasion, he said.

      ”We’re talking about post-hostilities control over a piece of geography that’s fairly significant, with the kinds of ethnic tensions that could lead to other problems,” he added. ”And so it takes a significant ground force presence to maintain a safe and secure environment, to ensure that people are fed, that water is distributed, all the normal responsibilities that go along with administering a situation like this.”

      He immediately was scolded by the Pentagon leadership, in particular Donald H. Rumsfeld, then secretary of defense, and his deputy, Paul D. Wolfowitz. In remarks Mr. Wolfowitz later acknowledged he regretted, the deputy defense secretary dismissed General Shinseki as ”wildly off the mark.”

      General Shinseki was not fired for his comments, but was marginalized by the Pentagon’s civilian leadership, and his influence as a member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff certainly was never the same. He retired as scheduled in the summer of 2003.>


    • azz alfalfa sayz to Konu > I highly recommend that you keep listening to that 5th grade tutor <

      Konu sayz > My, my, you have just confirmed you are a parrot! <

      vonder vhen dez 2 eeediots vill grow up.

    • Canoodle.. Thats your largest problem. You think you can think. You just dont realize how little you actually know and how much you think you know is wrong. I know in part it has more than a little bit to do with your trouble with English. Mostly it has to do with your poor comprehension. That may be result of your inabiltiy to analytically reason, your ossified mind or just laziness. Whatever it is, the result is garbage.

      Of course whenever you want to do some lifting and give us your 'outlook' for the market or any of the World's economies, Ill be happy to comment.

      In the meantime, I highly recommend that you keep listening to that 5th grade tutor and try and find some quality media which might express whatever it is you try to do on your own without success. Maybe you can help your boy, Fibs out and find some award winning pundits instead of his slew ot hacks.

      Good luck.


    • Alpha, I don't need to "find" media. I can think. I can express. My, my, you have just confirmed you are a parrot!

    • Canoodle.. I cant help it if you have trouble understanding English and worse yet cant find any quality media which would lend some credence to of your nonsense.

      Good Luck, ole man.


    • Konu sayz > Alpha, why don't you contribute to the discussion? Don't you have any original thoughts other than to comment on posters? <

      azz alfalfa = pot ....... Kanu = Kettle

    • proud azz alfalfa praizing his son who vil soon be posting here

    • yo dib... my post in reference you you're about 'not so much change aferall'... was not meant to be critical of what you posted. In fact we seem to agree. I'm sure you knew what I meant, but some could take it as a criticism of you. Not true. You are not one of the dummy's that I direct 99.9% of my posts at... no to.

    • So much for another dose of Mr. Obama! He's been on TV every day. He's so busy changing everything he was raving about for the past two years, that he's having trouble trying to cram it all in before he's safely hidden away and out of sight when TSHTF. You won't be able to find him. He's going to be safely out of the country visiting all his new friends that are dying to meet him with their hands out. How much are you going to donate to everybody else who wants, but doesn't really need free money. Ahhh... but really??!!!... NOW we're going to finally find out that NOTHING IS FREE! Ya mean there's NO FREE LUNCH?!!! Nope. Never was! You just believed what they told your dumb azz. Somebody has to PAY! Guess who that's going to be?!!! And who's next after we're all gone? You tell 'em. I don't want to see the look on their faces when it's their turn. :(

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