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ArthroCare Corporation (ARTC) Message Board

  • imadeadcat imadeadcat Nov 22, 2002 4:07 PM Flag

    quick take on artc

    Market cap $250 million. Lots of debt. On first blush appears a little pricey but if you subtract the "excess" cash and securities the enterprize value works out to $165 million. Figuring cash flow at $20 million+ next year ( that's value lines #) and it looks reasonable to me, you're buying in at about 8 times cash flow. Not bad for a company withreasonable growth prospects...10% + even when they stumble. I'm dabbling here..worth the risk IMHO. Doesn't look like the options packages are too screwed up but they are not pretty for the retail investor. Hope the directors will keep them under control at least until company regains some of its luster.

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    • Deadcat,

      Long time no see. I too am dabbling. In addition to the #'s you mention, I am very impressed with the stock buyback. In this market, CEOs love their cash more than EPS. If they are spending cash on stock, they've got to be very confident.

      Looking at fundamentals, there is more reason to be confident of late. The "back data" is, IMHO, spectacular. Insurance co's may go from complaining about reimbursement rates to insisting upon the procedure. Other procedures are a great bet on the aging baby boomers: TURP with radio beats TURP with roto router or hot stick anyday, and, as spokesperson for 40+ guys with no heal tennis elbow and terminal rotator cuff, I like the idea of ARTC's procedures more than the old fashioned methods (or current suffering). Also, ARTC seems to do a good job of protecting their intellectual property - -this was a big worry for me when I looked at this stock a while back.

      With only a $250 market cap, a single institutional investor could add 5 points. If I'm wrong, I'm stopped out at the $10 double bottom.

      What other co's have you bought recently?


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