Zee thats the problem now, We need earnings and guidance to be stellar just to get back to where we where. You know they are going to be conservitive with what csco and others have said and they will talk that chinese new year #$%$ they always do. Seems as there is no reason to go out on a limb. Just scares me that this is all when the market has been strong and hitting highs if that slips and we get a correction will finny fight that trend or go down further with it, I love the 2014 outlook but short term tradiing has been strange to say the least. Jerry did nothing at all when CSCO announed there numbers. Other firms Ceo's said something.