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E.piphany, Inc. (EPNY) Message Board

  • thermo_bea thermo_bea Oct 20, 2003 4:10 PM Flag

    mistaken release

    I'm a long EPNY, but accidentally releasing your SEC filing is not a good indicator for internal financial controls!

    It looks like someone remembered that the filing should be made at 1:01pm Pacific Time, but then went and filed at 1:01pm Eastern (Market) Time. That's may guess, based on the timing of the news stories.

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    • good guess, still gonna get upgraded tomorrow, I expect they'll raise guidance on the CC that will give this the boost it needs

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      • Just listened to the CC. No guidance beyond Q4. Look to have Q4 GAAP EPS of -0.02 to -0.04 and non-GAAP -0.01 to -0.03.

        Still looking to have a GAAP profitable Q in 04 sometime.

        Expense reductions are mostly reflected in Q3 numbers, so not much to come there.

        Seemed like an OK call, but nothing spectacular.

        One thing that came out was 77M shares fully diluted in Q4. That's only counting about 3M of about 13M outstanding options - that number represents the number that are in the money (about 5M) minus anticipated buy-backs. "Many" of the outstanding options are around $6.64. Thus, I think its prudent to just count the whole 13M in fully diluted calculations, since that level is just about us. So I'm going to use 87M shares in my analysis.

        These guys have got to get several quarters of positive EPS and positive free cash flow before the stock can move more than a few points from today's level.