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  • hmmm26 hmmm26 Nov 20, 2012 11:24 AM Flag

    Ok Chris

    I like the stuff you're thinking about here, Craig. I'm going to rip off your 'conservative' and 'fascist' label ideas for a separate thread on the political spectrum.

    Why do you think there's no democracy anywhere in the world?

    Most countries, including our own, aren't perfect democracies -- the electoral college is exhibit A -- but western countries do tend to adhere to the sacred principle of "One Man, One Vote" ("Man" meaning mankind, men and women; I use the old fashioned formula because that's how Thomas Jefferson always said it and he's one of my heroes).

    Since we can all vote, is your objection more to the fact that big money tends to win elections?

    I'm critical of that aspect of western politics, as well. But I believe that's handled better in other western countries than here, and I also believe we can fix the system.

    Here's a couple ideas: How about outlawing PAC's and SuperPAC's altogether (the Supreme Court's "Citizens United" decision was a step in the wrong direction), limiting individual contributions to a low amount -- $2000, maybe -- and offering publicly financed money to the nominees of both major parties for every race?

    I don't know how much the publicly financed money would be, but I'd want it big enough that any challenger could run a decent race on the public money alone What would you think of maybe $500 million for Presidential nominees, $25 million baseline for US Senate candidates, adjusted up or down based on the populations of the state, and $5 or $10 million for Congressional elections?

    We could even extend the public financing to 3rd parties, but they'd need to hit some percentage numbers in elections first.

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    • Chris, I'll give you a tentative thumbs up because your heart is in the right place. Karl Marx once said that every 4 years 2 bourgeoise candidates run and the bourgeois candidate wins. Not much has changed. The fact is you can not have democracy in a capitalist system. Corporations are dictatorships. Every so often through their ineptitude they manage to bring about an imminent collapse which the government has to bail us out of. The rest of the time the government is told to mind its own business.
      A true democracy would nationalize the banking system, the healthcare industry and the utilities. Political parties would be able to run a certain number of free adds. The rest could be paid for at reduced rates with public financing. The supreme court ruling that money is free speech would be overturned.

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