norjoa- they cut off most of my post as Comcast is very spotty today. What I attempted to say was that with our recent volume increases of 2% or so on top of the 4.9% rate increase we'll be OK due to the Orion efficiency improvements. I thought it was great to have a driver post positive feedback about it since often a major change like this is hard to adapt to. I should point out that with the discounted rates for larger shippers, the 4.9% might actually be closer to 3.5% to 4%. Either way it should prove interesting to sit back and watch FDX report their quarter ending in November just before Christmas while we report our full peak season Q4 with the advantage of an Orion roll-out and see how margins compare.