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  • ronmanbk ronmanbk Mar 3, 2012 2:05 AM Flag


    I have owned 10,000 shares of AGNC since mid July 2009 and paid $22.00 a share. I have been patient and collected huge dividends which I have reinvested. I've ended up with a nice pile of cash in my IRA. I've never posted to this board but read it often and can't believe the idiotic, dumb, and crazy comments, questions, etc. Posters aren't happy with just investing and making some decent returns. They have to gamble on put-puts, calls and generally bet against themselves. Some ask the most idiotic questions as to whether they should buy or sell and at what price. Some other genius usually gives a half-assed answer to those questions. These Captains of Industry don't have a clue. They estimate where the PPS is going based on zilch information. It's amazing how many morons might act on these touts all in the interest of making a few pennies. Just my observations. I wish all of you the good luck I have had. P.S. Cramer is te biggest BOO YA boob of all.

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    • Yes, I agree with you. It's wishful thinking.

      Have you ever experienced stillness of mind?

    • yourbestfriendintheworld yourbestfriendintheworld Mar 7, 2012 10:17 AM Flag

      Some people "returning to God" take their families with them. Deliberately. One reason I don't trust that sort of thing.

    • In the end, none of this matters. In the end, we return to God, and we don't take anything with us.

    • And in 1779, Thomas Jefferson proposed "The Virginia Statute of Religious Freedom," which was adopted in 1786. Its goal was complete separation of church and state.
      Yes, we should read our history, for when we stop remembering our history, we start repeating our past mistakes.

    • ROMAN...
      you should have kept your mouth shut. I don't believe you and if true why belittle others regardless of their level of investment expertise. Stick to the golden rule IYCSSNDSAAA.
      Climb back into your hole

    • Based upon all the negative feedback you’ve drawn in here, “ron,” I’d say that your attack-mode verbiage overpowered the message. You sure riled the hornets out of the nest!

      Your approach (if true) is indeed sound and, in the long run, proves out the validity of old fable of The Tortoise and the Hare. I am big fan of dividend stocks, and reinvesting the dividends (DRIP). Matter of fact, all of my holdings pay divvies, with the exception of WPRT & CLNE—which are speculative plays only. And while MCD and NGLS (which I own) do not pay nearly the fat 16% of AGNC (which I also own), they make up for it in the way of lucrative annual increases in share value.

      But, what you did not mention in your diatribe is that unlike a historically solid, aristocrat growth stock like McDonald’s, you have to watch REIT’s like a hawk! A mortgage reinvestment player is only as good as how long the Fed interest rate will be low (nearly nil, currently).

      So, while buying and holding the divs and applying the DRIP factor religiously is a great concept in principle, it is not the ONLY game in town! “Different strokes for different folks,” as the sayin' goes.

      My general rule for playing the market is simple: first and foremost, find a principle of play that interests you, works for you, and one that you fully understand. I am not personally interested in playing shorts, buying on margin, along with sundry other angles that are of higher risk (risky, primarily, because these require a great deal of expertise and knowledge of the individual stocks played).

      But I do not knock those who do. And I acknowledge that this type of player—with nerves of steel—may get rich quicker than I (the Tortoise). Yet, living on the edge is simply not my style—at my age, especially. I’m confident in playing the way I know (which is not all that conservative), and admit that I’m not knowledgeable enough (or smart enough?) to jump into this level of fast-track arena. I have my work cut out for me with the daily or weekly monitoring of what few stocks that make up my portfolio, as it is.

      But, even though I’m more of a buy/hold/reinvest type player, I am not so rigid as to restrict periodic play action with the “speculative” portion of my portfolio. I won’t play the “shorts” game (or play on margin), but I will make plays (buy/sell) on speculation (comprised of a combination of recent news and hunch).

      For example, I sold CLNE today (well, now, “yesterday”) @ $19.67 because: 1); I was uneasy with the mixed news, largely, the CEO’s dumping of a lot of shares just prior to the report date; 2) it was a safe point to get out with a nice profit.

      Sure, I’ll most likely be back in Clean Energy, once the dust has settled…and I get a nice buy-back price (at, say, 15% under my previous sale). But, if this never happens, all I’ve lost is the opportunity parlay my shares into future wealth…IN THIS PARTICULAR STOCK.

      This is what “watch lists” are for. And this is why speculative stocks are open game for switching horses, while become married to none. If CLNE is no longer treating me right, there is always LVS, SIRI or….

      BTW, “ron,” how did you manage to stash $220,000 (in 2009) into an IRA, in the first place? Must have been a rollover from a 401(k) (or equivalent), in that IRA contributions are limited (dependent upon age) to $5K or $6K annually.

    • Hey Quad & Rimmy -

      Love the posts!!!!!!!!!!!

      Remember, however............

      Bacchus, the son of Zeus, the noisy & riotous god of wine declared that Barolo was in fact -
      The King of Wines and the Wine of Kings.
      Long before the eruption of Mount Vesuvius in Pompeii.

      So let us all lift our glasses high, again and again in a toast to the Kings - Barolo & AGNC!!!!!!!!!!!


    • I'll 2nd that.

      Gimme another round!

    • Quad,

      Cliff is talking to Norm (Cheers).

      “Well you see, Norm, it’s like this. A herd of buffalo can only move as fast as the slowest buffalo. And when the herd is hunted, it’s the slowest and weakest ones at the back that are killed first. This natural selection is good for the herd as a whole, because the general speed and health of the whole group keeps improving by the regular killing of the weakest members. In much the same way, the human brain can only operate as fast as the slowest brain cells. Now, as we know, excessive intake of alcohol kills brain cells. But naturally, it attacks the slowest and weakest brain cells first. In this way, regular consumption of beer eliminates the weaker brain cells, making the brain a faster and more efficient machine. And that, Norm, is why you always feel smarter after a few beers.”

      Come on AGNC.


    • Hey Lakeed<

      I don't often LOL. Thank you for the ff:

      >>They end up idiots like Santorum[spelling]>>

      It got better:

      >>Vets ...They are in large part responsible for building this great nation>>

      >>Now we are seeing the church trying to impose their pagan/cult beliefs on our nation>>

      I would suggest some history lessons about our first Vets:

      Thank you for your post, it was very entertaining!

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