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  • burgersboat burgersboat Jan 13, 2003 7:32 PM Flag

    Manitowoc slashes 1000+ workers jobs

    What's wrong with laying off people that are not needed ???

    Here let's look @ it this way. Ok, you have " Joe Blow" who's a painter,,but there's no work 4 painters. We can keep him & use him to wash the bath rooms prior 2 painting. Oh wait that's a different union (painters vs. Boilermakers)... Boilermakers wash the walls,, painters, paint them.
    Ole' Joe sits around waiting 4 the walls to be washed. Two days go by & "Joe" sits around (getting paid to play sheeps head)!!
    Ok the walls r ready & off Joe goes. oops, "Joe" runs into some cracks that need some repair.. "Joe" can't do it ,,that's Carpentry work (different union),, "Joe" sits for another 2 days waiting 4 the spackle to dry (who's deal)... Now "joe" can paint!!!! but wait,,there's a leaky pipe,, damn another Union & another 2 days "down" time.

    U see the company could of layed "joe" off 4 a week instead of paying him $15.00/hr. x 40 hours or $ 600.00 for playing sheeps head...
    Now take that times 40 "other painters (that there's No work for or $ 24,000.00 / week !!!!

    I hope "joe" is playing $ 1.00,$2.00,$ 3.00 @ the rate he's getting paid, he can afford to loose once in a while

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      Ok let's do this,,, The Union doesn't want "Joe Blow" laid off,,,that's fine.

      We tell "Joe" to go paint the bath room,,,he paints it without the "prep work" needed & the job turns out like shit. We give him a Warning slip for poor workmenship. We than give "Joe another painting job (what ever it may be) & that job looks crappy also... 2nd warning slip given & 3 days off.
      When Joe comes back,,we give him another Painting "type" job (but something Joe has never done,yet Joe is a journeyman & he's getting paid 4 it)and he "blows" that job.
      Now joe gets 5 days off.
      Finally Joe comes back & we put him on another job that he should be qualified 4 but is not..


      Is "THAT" what u guys want ????? U want "Joe to get fired ????

      Let Joe take the lay off. He'll have a job when they call him back.. But NOT if he's fired

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      • Sounds to me like Joe never could cut it. Its too bad the company's human resources didn't do a better job screening Joe. It also seems Joe must of fooled all of his supervisors because he did an O.K. job during his probationary period. Now Joe has worked for this company for thirty years and most of his evaluations were average to good reports but now that Joe is getting older and is ready to start receiving his benefits its in the best interest of the company to get rid of Joe . Even if Joe never was the worker the company wish for, management did not do their job,a job they were rewarded for handsomely.
        So lets not blame one side here especially since were not directly involved and don't know all the circumstances.

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