hi offroad....don't know that u will see this reply post as it seems I can't get into message boards thru yahoo finace these days for some reason but did see your info on all the mslp brands being on the top part of body building list. again I say another bit of "good news" for sure u would think yet down we go. perhaps as in life sometimes u need to hit rock bottom before u have no place else to go but up. but where is bottom???