You really should take your crap elsewhere ..
THIS IS A STOCK MESSAGE BOARD
investors in VZ want to see costs contained , revs increase , cfc increase and net profit increase ...
that cannot happen if the company is going to engage in a giveaway program to employees , so
the union posts are negative to stock price appreciation ..
think i'm cold and unfeeling ??? no way , but this is NOT the forum such sentiment .... i worked
for a large outfit for 32 years ,,, watched my raises stop , my med expenses went way up , then
was shown the door long before i was ready to retire and it just about devastated me .... ...... I am
still heavily invested in the stock and doing quite well there , but on the message boards , i leave
that behind .. .that company is still a good investment , in part because they lopped off a bunch
of employees , including myself , and have also shifted a large portion of the medical costs to
emps and retirees but that's another matter all together ......
give the unions a nice fat contract and watch your investment take a dive .... i know that many
union employees also benefit from the stock price and dividends ... you are being pulled in 2 opposite
directions ... so what ??? so is everyone else ...
as a consumer and a worker .. i want low prices and high wages .... WOW .. won't happen in this
solar system ... same as an employee/stock investor .... as with all other factors of life ... work hard ,
save , and make the best of it ..... but above all .... stop the griping , it serves no purpose , other than
catharsis .. which is much better handled in a different venue ... like your local beer garden ..... g
precisely my point , but there is an army of cretins who just want to dump their bile or carry their
torches .... the union talk is fine , provided the arguments are linked specifically to the
fiscal health of the company .... like what are the components of the contract and how will
benefits be funded , job security , jobs creation , etc. Basically the unions push for so much
compensation and benefits , that they close out many other people from getting a decent job ...
unions have become little more than exclusive "good ol' boys and girls clubs" ... very similiar to those
enjoyed by corporate execs ...... the outcome of the contract will have little impact on VZ's business,
but will keep many people from gaining fruitful employment .......
The proposed contract is more takeaway than giveaway, and all that was in previous contracts was earned not given.I have a feeling this contract will not be accepted the way they think it will.
sure would be nice if these message boards were used for what they were intended ... a forum
for open discussions about companies and their stocks / bonds and the things that affect their
businesses .... there are plenty of other forums for releasing bile .... garce